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Yes rather annoying that,  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Allan
> Sent: 23 February 2005 16:44
> To: Coldfusion Development
> Subject: RE: [CF-Dev] Ben's Talk
> 
> >- see footer for list info -<
> Yeah, they are nice ... unfortunately ...
> 
> I just had a word with Macromedia and as it happens you can 
> actually calls java objects without making 
> createObject()/<cfobject> calls. I was pointed too:
> 
> http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?event=blog.archive&month=200
> 2_06 (it's in there somewhere) 
> http://www.rewindlife.com/archives/000051_bad.cfm
> 
> So turns out it's not all rosey after all.
> 
> Andy
> 
> Quoting "Russ Michaels \\(Snake\\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > >- see footer for list info -<
> > Ok looks like Ben didn't know about that feature then :-)
> >
> > I am a happy man now.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Allan
> > > Sent: 21 February 2005 22:44
> > > To: Coldfusion Development
> > > Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] Ben's Talk
> > >
> > > >- see footer for list info -<
> > > That is interesting, as the impression I got from the 
> release notes 
> > > was that this was now fixed. Hit the following link and 
> then scroll 
> > > to the Sandbox Security section.
> > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/coldfusion/
> > > mx7/releasenotes.html#generalenhancements
> > >
> > > Or have I got the wrong end of the stick with this?
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > Russ Michaels (Snake) wrote:
> > >
> > > >>- see footer for list info -<
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >I did ask Ben, he said nothing had changed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy 
> > > >>Allan
> > > >>Sent: 21 February 2005 18:08
> > > >>To: Coldfusion Development
> > > >>Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] Ben's Talk
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>- see footer for list info -<
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>I thought they had done so by restricting the type you 
> can call in 
> > > >><cfobject> and createObject() so you can limit usage to
> > > only CFC for
> > > >>example?
> > > >>
> > > >>Andy
> > > >>
> > > >>Russ Michaels (Snake) wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>- see footer for list info -<
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>I only caught the last 10 minutes as I got the times wrong.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>And I was
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>disappointed to hear MM still have not addressed the
> > > security issue
> > > >>>with the service factory and thus are still pretending CF
> > > is not use
> > > >>>din a shared hosting environment.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>Adrian Lynch
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>Sent: 21 February 2005 10:01
> > > >>>>To: CF-Dev
> > > >>>>Subject: [CF-Dev] Ben's Talk
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>- see footer for list info -<
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>For those that went, what did you think about the 
> whole affair?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Once again we were made to sit through things we didn't, at 
> > > >>>>first anyway, care too much about. The Flex talk was nothing I
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>haven't heard
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>before but it was a nice reminder about it.
> > > >>>>Captivate was interesting, I haven't looked at RoboDemo
> > > so I don't
> > > >>>>know if Captivate is a huge improvement but I really liked
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>what I saw.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>Here's a nice sample
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>http://www.fusiontap.com/demo/powerontap.htm from
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>S. Isaac Dealey(what is his first name!?).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>I think Ben is an excellent speaker. You really get the
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>feeling it's
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>him talking and not Macromedia or am I just being naive? He
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>talks fast
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>so he gets a lot in and he cares less about running out of
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>time than
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>anyone else I've seen talk. Always a good thing when it's
> > > something
> > > >>>>you're interested in
> > > >>>>:O)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Ade
> > > >>>>--
> > > >>>>No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > > >>>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > > >>>>Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>18/02/2005
> > > >>
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