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Thanks for the suggestion, Rich. It wasn't one I had even thought of - 
have you had occasion to use it?

Cheers

Terry
(free event listings at http://www.confexdb.co.uk)

----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Rich Wild <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected], Coldfusion Development 
> <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:34:00 +0100
> 
> Could you use an Apache Derby database as an interstitial datastore, 
> taking
> weight off your mySQL server?
> 
> Rich
> 
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Terry Riley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > >- see footer for list info -<
> > Yes, Russ, I know! We had already done some CF query caching, but 
> > the
> > site is fairly data-sensitive and any caching is going to be 
> > short-lived.
> > ( view http://www.football.mitoo.co.uk  and you'll see what I mean )
> >
> > Using MySQLs cache at least ensured that the data was up-to-date, 
> > with
> > MySQL dropping any query from cache related to a changed data table.
> >
> > CFs query cache has no way to detect the changed data, and even if 
> > you
> > could tie a data change to a set of particular queries, there's no 
> > way
> > in CF to drop that related set of queries from cache (without 
> > running
> > them all again with a 0 timeout - which seems pointless.
> >
> > At least, if I understand it right, with memcached we could cache a
> > query (each one having an individual key) and if a related table is
> > changed with an SQL update/delete/insert in our code, we can 
> > designate
> > an immediate dropping of the named/related cached query. That way 
> > it is
> > ready to be recreated the next time it is called for.
> >
> > One of the main reasons I'd like to try memcached is one you 
> > mentioned -
> > using memory outside of that generally used for CF, and being able 
> > to
> > distribute the cache over 4 or 5 servers.
> >
> > I'd still like to find a source of good instructions for a CF 
> > client,
> > though. In order to cut down on traffic charges (like upwards of
> > 55GB/day) we have moved the MySQL server back onto the same box as 
> > the
> > CF app/servers - with added memory.
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Terry
> > (free event listings at http://www.confexdb.co.uk)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > *From:* "snake" <[email protected]>
> > > *To:* <[email protected]>, "'Coldfusion Development'"
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > *Date:* Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:04:52 +0100
> > >
> > > Not personally but I worked for a client that used it and they 
> > > said
> > > it was
> > > great. I believe in their case they were using it to share memory
> > > between
> > > multiple cf servers.
> > > just caching your cfqueries would reduce the traffic to your mysql
> > > server,
> > > so perhaps some application tuning is required.
> > >
> > > Russ
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terry 
> > > Riley
> > > Sent: 07 October 2009 18:03
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [CF-Dev] memcached
> > >
> > > >- see footer for list info -<
> > > Has anyone here implemented memcached on their CF8 server(s)? Has 
> > > it
> > > been worthwhile? What pushed you in that direction?
> > >
> > > I'm being pushed by client management to do something to alleviate
> > > the traffic with the MySQL server, by caching on the CF server
> > > instead of relying on MySQL's query cache.
> > >
> > > Only solution I can see is something like memcache, but I find the
> > > information on setup/usage of the Java/CF client (not the 
> > > memcached
> > > server) very sparse indeed. Are there resources out there that I'm
> > > just not finding?
> > >
> > > I understand that CF9 has all sorts of improvements in caching, 
> > > but
> > > we can't afford to go that route.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Terry
> > > (free event listings at http://www.confexdb.co.uk)
> > >
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