hello, as we think that machii is an oop tools, we can use ULM methodologies: when defining an app, often you develop classes in composition with others: not class1 "is a" class2, but class1 "has" class2 and composition is well modelled in UML, and also in machii: we design listeners , defined in machii.xml configuration file, that are composed of object representing app actors: this is what i mean to decouple object from each other and from app context. after all, oop is not, or not only, a tecnique to write code, but is very useful analize and design app, before development. machii lead you in opp approach. also, machii make large use of cf ponents, .fc, in implementing model part of mvc pattern, and components are well-suited to encapsulate object. of course UML is not user-centric, but you can easily prototype youe app. best regards salvatore ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Westlake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:20 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FuseBox
> Thanks salvatore for a very clear presentation of machii. > > Regarding: "machii does not need a wireframe (fusebuilder adalon etc.)" > > Wireframing is an important part of the FuseBox Lifecycle Process (FLiP) > design methodology and is used to gather requirements from the user as well > as let the user get a feel for the system through usage. UML tools can do > something similar [Use Cases, Constraint Diagrams, System Modes Model, etc) > to represent the requirements of the user but are not really great for > user-centered design. > > So > > 1. What design methodology(s) would be recommeded for the machii life cycle. > 2. Is only FuseBox - well FLiP - user-centered? > > I look forward to any responses, > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 April 2004 15:04 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] FuseBox > > hello, > i do not know fusebox 4 very well, but i know that it's approach is > procedural: when developing, you must follow a cascade approach; machii > allows a oop approach to the problem and then you can use an successive > iteraction in analisys-development system, i.e. you can in every phase turn > back and change anything; it is really simple change specifics and/or add > part never thoght before, as every part is uncoupled (yes fb4 permits > uncoupling ad MVC, but these are natural in machii: uncoupling is not only > separate model presentation logic, but also to separate application actors > fron each oter and from application context; it also permits or forces to > write high-coesion object: an object has to do 1 thing) machii does not need > a wireframe (fusebuilder adalon etc.): > > hope this is usefull > best regards > salvatore > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Westlake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:24 PM > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] FuseBox > > > > I have looked at mach-ii and it seems to offer all the benefits of OOP, as > > you say salvatore. > > > > I have already built a few apps in FB 4 and am wondering if instead of > > carrying on down this route I should try mach-ii instead? I have Java > > programming experience so the idea of OOP is appealing but I like the way > > FuseBox works. > > > > Apart from the design principles and uncoupling of presentation / logic / > > content (FB 4 support MVC really well already), what are the other > > real-world benefits? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ing. fusto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 02 April 2004 11:15 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] FuseBox > > > > fusebox (4 too) are procedural tools at all, machii allows an oop design > and > > development of applications and allows easily the use of techiques such > as > > high choesion and low coupling of classes, each other and from > application, > > design pattern as MVC and composite views, anf so on. > > it' s not difficult to understand and use, also for inexpertise oop > > programmers. > > best regards > > salvatore > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:08 PM > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] FuseBox > > > > > > > Hi All,<BR><BR>I noticed that there is some talk on these threads of > > mach-ii. I just wondered if anybody has been using FuseBox 4. <BR><BR>Any > > feedback / thoughts? > > > > > > > > -- > > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided > by activepdf.com* > > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > proworkflow.com* > > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > gradwell.com* > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided > by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
