do Macromedia not realise the dominance of other web technologies here then?
or is it a matter of they do not understand the potential for it here?
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Westminster City Council - Web Support
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 April 2004 13:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] ASP continued ...
A couple of the cool things in CF are Database Connection Pooling and Query
Caching (unless they dropped such functionality since CF 4.5???).
It takes ages to write equivalent code in other languages. Then take the
average of 1 bug per 100 lines of new code. Plus other developers need to
understand, support and develop on top of that code. Nightmare. CF does this
for us in one tag. It is well-suited to web development tasks.
- Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Westbrook (FDM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 April 2004 13:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] ASP continued ...
> To me, there doesn't seem to be a lot in it between the examples you
showed.
> However, try a few database calls, inserts or updates and see the
difference
> then. Or a file upload. Or looping through a recordset ...
well no, that's obviously as basic an example as it gets. from what I've
seen of database calls, loops etc, CF wins hands down for ease of use (I
assume that's what you're saying? ;-)
so, if CF is much easier to use, theonly reason why people use ASP is what
we might call 'corporate acceptibility' and a communications issue from MM,
no?
Ian W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Westlake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:55 PM
Subject: [ cf-dev ] ASP continued ...
> Thought this ASP related question should move to a different thread - not
> really to do with the state of coldfusion in the U.K. anymore ...
>
> Quote: why do you have to Dim the var first? If it exists why not just
> overwrite it with a new var?
>
> You don't need to declare variables in ASP / VBScript unless you use
"Option
> Explicit" argument. If this is used then ALL variables must be declared
and
> the ASP engine will not allow a script to declare the same variable-name
> twice.
>
> There is something in FuseBox for CF that does a similar thing at the
> individual variable level (e.g., <set name="foo" value="bar"
> overwrite="false">, so I guess a CF native element must do the same
thing -
> although I haven't come across it yet.
>
> To me, there doesn't seem to be a lot in it between the examples you
showed.
> However, try a few database calls, inserts or updates and see the
difference
> then. Or a file upload. Or looping through a recordset ...
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Ian Westbrook (FDM) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> Sent: 14 April 2004 11:37
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK
>
> > http://www.webwizguide.com <http://www.webwizguide.com/>
>
> that kinda proves my point, though. this is from the webwizguide 'your
first
> ASP page' tutorial., to assign the string 'Hello World' to a variable and
> output it:
>
> <%
> Dim strMessage
> strMessage = "Hello World"
> Response.Write (strMessage)
> %>
>
> which I guess is not so bad (but why do you have to Dim the var first? If
it
> exists why not just overwrite it with a new var?), but not as easy as (on
a
> .cfm page, obviously)
>
> <cfset string = "Hello World">
> <cfoutput>
> #variables.string# (or just #string#)
> </cfoutput>
> ?
>
> seems to me like the more syntacical stuff you have to remember, the
easier
> it is to get things wrong. I have sen some truly appalling sites in ASP,
but
> I guess that comes down to the point made before - that it's the
developer,
> not the language necessarily...
>
> Ian W
>
>
>
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