If it's a personal use website then they ain't going to come knocking on your door. If it's an organizational one then the law will come into action and in that case it's not "your" website.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 April 2004 13:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK I can understand how it can be argued that a government organisation or similar sites should be made accessible but by forcing me to make my sites accessible is like someone coming to my house and telling me i have to put ramps on my steps and install a lift for disabled people to get upstairs. Its my house. If I dont want to install this stuff, i amnt going to. Not that i dont agree that accessibility should be taken seriously and should be a part of every good website. I just dont agree that anyone should be able to sue me for the way i want to program my sites. James "Ian Westbrook To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> \(FDM\)" cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK eam.net> 16/04/2004 13:30 Please respond to dev > I do agree it may be difficult to prosecute larger companies tho... only from the perspective of the cost of litigation. It's actually _easier_ to prosecute large companies, I would imagine, because they can't argue mitigating factors (ie cost) as an issue. 'So, Mr Nat West, you're owned by Royal Bank of Scotland, which made �6.5billion in pre-tax profits last year. Why isn't your web site accessible?'... Ian W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:23 PM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK > I don't think that's true though Neil- you can't argue that there's a > major degradation of experience on anything other than a Flash site and > why you need a site to be in Flash is in most cases questionable. > > If you manage/ own a public space then you have to follow certain > procedures- if everyone could get away with it then there would be very > little disabled access etc -- then you would have a two tier exclusive > situation. The same is true of websites, they are a public space in a > similar sense. > > I do agree it may be difficult to prosecute larger companies tho... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 April 2004 13:14 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK > > I would be very very surprised if someone could successfully proceed > with a > case and win against a site which does not include or adhere to > accessibility "guidelines" - agree with Taz, its entirely up to the > freedom > of speech and thought how you move forward with a site.... > > There would be uproar if someone shut a site down as in some cases you > could > counter the whole scenario by saying that by making it accessible may > lead > to the whole experience being degraded which means able-bodied (or > whatever > term you want to use) are being discriminated against..... > > It's a no win situation whatever way you look at it. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 April 2004 13:04 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK > > > well, the DRC _is_ the enforcenment body, and if you read the foreword > > > of the report Bert Massie, the (disabled) Chair, states quite clearly > > that > they > > will be launching actions against companies, or supporting disabled > > people who want to do so. They have the power to close web sites down > > if, after advising about the issues, the site takes no notice/action. > > I'll apologise in advance for being politically incorrect, but I can't > fathom why it should be illegal for a site not to be accessible to every > user. > > Effectively it's more of a problem for the company involved, who may be > losing a potential revenue stream, but essentially it's up to them who > they > target their advertising and services at. > > Okay, so you could call it discrimination, but then by the same token > you > could argue that book publishers are being discriminatory by not making > all > of their books available in Braille or audio. In fact, why aren't we > getting > sued for not translating sites into 60 different languages? Hey, that's > xenophobia isn't it? Chinese sites for all! 2 billion people can't all > be > wrong. > > Don't get me wrong, I'm all for accessibility for all. And since nearly > all > of my work has to conform to RNIB guidelines (among others), I tend to > build > in accessibility from the start. But I get the feeling that all this > political correctness is getting just a little out of hand. > > I agree that sites should be accessible to as many people as possible. > But > if the Government want to get the electronic UK on the map as the best > in > the world, why don't they offer incentives to businesses to implement > these > things, instead of the draconian attitude of biting off the hand that's > paying taxes. > > Oh crap! 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