Hi Yannick,
No, that's actually not what I'm saying at all. An official release of
the next version of C2 is completely unrelated to fixing / updating the
translation tool.
Best regards,
Hans
On 3/07/2011 22:07, Yannick Warnier wrote:
Hi all,
Trying to make it easy to understand... If I get it correctly, you are
saying there will not be any translate.chamilo.org fix or upgrade before
the next version of C2 is ready and released, right? (which means for
the next 3-4 months).
I don't want to do mental manipulation of any kind, so I will leave it
at that and ask for an official return to DLTT (or CLTT) at our next
association meeting.
Regards,
Yannick
El dom, 03-07-2011 a las 11:02 +0200, Hans De Bisschop escribió:
Hi Yannick,
I'm afraid the situation is not quite *that* simplistic. A few things
need to be put in a more accurate reference frame:
* As documented in length way back in October 2010
(https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B8n8rrWLColvNzAzNTBiNjUtMzNmYS00MzM4LWJhOTMtN2U3M2NiMDJiYTgy&hl=en_US)
we introduced namespaces in Chamilo 2. This also implicated changing the format of our
translations-files from the classic php-format to an ini-based format.
* The filesystem was restructured for uniformity and to allow
for an even more modular approach. The classic
"languages"-folder approach no longer applies to Chamilo 2. On
top of that languages are now based on ISO codes, instead of
their English names. (Also explained in the document)
* The number of modules / packages has significantly increased
and/or diversified. What's on the translation-website for 2.0
is no longer up-to-date or in some cases no longer relevant.
* The platform is in dire need of an upgrade to the most recent
codebase. This has been postponed more then once because we
were hoping the association would have had it's own technical
infrastructure by now. Right now the people at Hogeschool Gent
are as kind as to let us host the application on their own
servers. I personally do not automatically also expect them to
do any and every kind of upgrade as well.
* Holidays? I'll assume this is an attempt at humour. Migrating
a platform of more then 20.000 users from Chamilo 1.8 to
Chamilo 2 is not exactly what I would call a holiday. Setting
up pilot projects is not exactly what I would call a holiday.
Preparing for a new academic year is not exactly a holiday.
Virtualizing and restructuring a complete set of L(C)MS
applications is not exactly a holiday. The end of an academic
year does not automatically mean we all get to go on vacation.
That being said each and every (2.0) developer has more then
earned a 2 month break (even when they're not really getting
it) after what they've realized this last year.
So that leaves me wondering who should do this? Fixing a few lines of
code is the easy part (if you know where and how). Migrating all the
data from the old installation to the new installation is somewhat
more complex. It takes intimate knowledge of Chamilo 2, the
CDA-application and the way translations are structured in 2.0 right
now. I guess the list of possible volunteers is rather short ... I'll
have to ask the man in the mirror how to proceed. I have to warn you
though that he tends to not take it too well when asking these kinds
of things on a Sunday.
It's not too clear from your mail, but is the system broken for
importing in general or just for 2.0?
Best regards,
Hans De Bisschop
Adviseur | Lead Developer Chamilo 2.0
Software Coordinator Chamilo Association
Erasmushogeschool Brussel
Nijverheidskaai 170 | B-1070 Brussel
T 02 559 02 54 | i 254
[email protected] | www.erasmushogeschool.be
Kom eens langs: www.erasmushogeschool.be/infodagen
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On 2/07/2011 21:26, Yannick Warnier wrote:
Hi all,
Given you're all more familiar than me with the C2 code... I'm trying to
use this wonderful import feature for translate.chamilo.org and while
importing a file it just doesn't work, which makes me panic as a lot of
us are using phpLangEditor to edit the files at home as I suggested, for
improved translation speed. We also have a full C1 and C2 Arabic
translation coming in this way apparently in a matter of 10 days or so,
so I'm really worried.
Here is my test case:
- go to translate.chamilo.org
- login
- click "Chamilo Translation Application" tab
- click "Export translations"
- select "Futura (2.x)"
- click "Next"
- click "English" and "French"
- click "Next"
- click "Core"
- click "Applications"
- Click "Download"
- Download the zip
- Uncompress the zip
- Edit the files with phpLangEditor
- Save
- zip the "translations" directory as a new "translations.zip" file
Up until there, everything is fine. I can see my ew translations are in
the file (I'm testing with the TrackingStorageUnitCreationFailed
variable inside the french/common.inc.php).
Then I go back to the "Chamilo Translation Application" tab.
- click on "Import translations"
- select "Futura (2.x)"
- upload the translations.zip file
- click "Import"
You then get to the languages screen, which kindly tells you the import
worked, so I search for the TrackingStorageUnitCreationFailed variable
in French, and... oh... the import didn't work!
Could someone *please* look into this? I know that the server is
somewhere where nobody we know has access, that the translation
application version is old and everything, but come on... this is not a
way to offer a translation mechanism to people who would like to
translate.
If I have to do it myself, it's going to be much quicker to re-install
the DLTT application, which I'm not OK to do.
And please, let it not be Hans, somebody else can take responsibility as
much as he can (now you're on holiday and there's much less stressing
support calls and all that).
Thanks,
Yannick
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