I respectfully request we avoid lawyering while discussing a new name.  Let’s 
focus on something that we love and are proud of.  Something that gets people 
excited about the project.

Hopefully we will wind up with 5-10 great choices.  At that point we’ll get 
some legal opinions and then shortlist and vote on it.


Thank you,


--Randy

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Raszuk <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 2:06 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard <[email protected]>
Cc: Randy Bias <[email protected]>, Ankur Singla <[email protected]>, 
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

While I suggested DCV before to Greg offline the real question here is if you 
want this to be a new name independent from Juniper's parent or something which 
is still seen as maintaining this relation going forward.

If the latter how about simply: Kontrail ?

Legally different - product wise quite similar :)

Best,
R.


On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Gregory Elkinbard 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Registered by Hitachi.
Unrelated to computers, but they can still sue.
Strimmor – which is contrail in Swedish is still open.

Greg



From: Dev 
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on behalf of Randy Bias <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:38 PM
To: Ankur Singla <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

This is pretty good.  +1



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From: Dev 
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on behalf of Ankur Singla <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:04 PM
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
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Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name


I would nominate “Hikoki” - it means Contrail in Japanese.




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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:22:36 +0000
From: Gregory Elkinbard <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: Foucault de Bonneval <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is 
unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to assign 
his rights.

I will add One0six the list

Thanks
Greg


From: Foucault de Bonneval 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>>
 a ?crit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
Greg

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