Dean Jones wrote:
> Maybe I misread what you said before then. 
> 
> So, will there be a default behavior for this if the person didn't configure 
> the client with a trash folder?  

IMO the default behavior would be whatever the admin configures
RoundCube. If a trash-folder is specified in config (which is by default
"Trash") that folder will be created when attempting to delete a message
(and not before that). If no trash-folder is configured, the message
will be deleted immediately from the server.

Is that OK for you guys?
This implies that whoever set up a RoundCube installation has thought
about it and decided what's best for his users or the local environment.

Regards,
Thomas

> 
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:02:28 +0100, Thomas Bruederli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> Dean Jones wrote:
>>> These are my points exactly.
>>>
>>> What is the problem with automatic deletion (delete then expunge) if
>> they don't have a trash folder?  Maybe they don't have a trash folder on
>> purpose?  Maybe they want automatic deletion?  Who knows... I think it's
>> safer to leave out automatic creation of any folder.  Thunderbird does in
>> fact do this but I think it's incorrect.  Doesn't anyone read or pay
>> attention to the Unix philosophy anymore?!  :)
>>
>> As I mentioned before, this should be up to the admin who sets up
>> RoundCube. If the server/webmail admin decides to use a folders named
>> "Trash" then the webmail should do exactly what it is told to do.
>> There's a little difference between common mail clients that every user
>> sets up on his home computer and a central webmail service. If you're
>> working in a bug company the mail client is set up and configured by the
>> sysadmin and you usually have to accept the configuration of your
>> environment and most people (users) don't care about it.
>>
>> Hotmail, GMX and Yahoo mail act the same way. I agree that having 5
>> different trash folders is not nice and that's the reason why the name
>> of the Trash can be configured and it will appear in the selected
>> localization without creating a folder named "Muelleimer" on the server.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:55:00 +0100, Thomas -Balu- Walter
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 08:46:45AM +0100, Thomas Bruederli wrote:
>>>>> After following this thread a while, here are my 2 cents about this:
>>>>> I admit that the current behavior is not right because deleting can
>>>>> fail. The patch submitted by Jacob would solve this and that's what
>> IMO
>>>>> should happen. Choice is good, I agree, but I'm not sure how many of
>> the
>>>>> "dummy" users have ever seen the settings for deleting messages in
>> their
>>>>> mail client. The number of configuration parameters an end-user has to
>>>>> deal with should be kept low.
>>>> A customer just had a problem last week when he was not able to delete
>>>> mails too. In his case there was a Trash folder, but he was not
>>>> subscribed to it.
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if I like an automatic creation of the "Trash" folder.
>>>> At least my dad does not know what "Trash" is anyway - he'd want to
>> have
>>>> "Muelleimer" perhaps.  And while talking about the languages... I've
>>>> seen people with 4 or more "Trash" folders, because different clients
>>>> used different naming themes.
>>>>
>>>> So having another one added automatically because it's not there is not
>>>> what I'd like. Please allow people to choose one or allow immediate
>>>> deletion...
>>>>
>>>>      Balu
>>>
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