Martin Marques wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2006 14:23:05 -0500, Charles McNulty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Martin Marques wrote:

- There has to be an option to how to treat selection after an action
has been executed over the message. The option should, not only be
configurable in which direction to move (forward or backward), but
also in if it should select or not another message. You can leave the
default behavior to be "move to the next message", and let user
decide what is best for him/her.
You still haven't given any possible reason for this except as a
preventative measure for people clicking the delete button twice.  I'm
not going to implement this unless I'm convinced that it could ever
actually add to the user's experience.

Why should it add the the users experience. It should add to confortness of the 
user.

I personally don't see other web clients (don't come with the web desktop please) doing this (gmail, yahoo!, hotmail, IMP, squirrelmail, etc.).
You can't say that. Roundcube is a Web 2.0 application, NOT a page-by-page webmail script. If YOU keep thinking of it like that, then Roundcube is NOT for you, and YOU need to find a different webmail client.
Yes I know Thunderbird, Outlook, kmail, and pine do it, but in the first tree 
cases it's because the actually do something with the mail, besides selecting 
it (they show the contents of it on another frame), while the fourth (pine) has 
to do it because it's the only way of showing from where you are moving (pine 
doesn't use mouse as it works on a terminal so you move the selection with 
keyboard arrows). At the end, why are you selecting another message? Just to be 
able to delete one after the other faster? I just don't get why this is so 
necesary.
Thunderbird does the following: In message view list (without the "preview pane") the selected item is deleted, and the next message (down in the list, regardless of listing, it's down.... not up) and the previous item is either marked as deleted (IMAP) or moved to the trash folder (POP3).
But if everybody is happy with it, what can I do.

Anyway, you aren't fully complying to the selection that the fat-clients do, as 
when you go back to the mail folder, or after login, no mail is selected.
Okay, this can be added. When going back from message view, the message you viewed (if still available) or the next message is selected. That's an okay claim.
status of deleted messages.  In other words I'm not being dogmatic, and
I can be convinced but you're not even trying.

I just want it in the TODO. When I get some free time out, I'll try to get you 
a patch for it.

I think it is *YOU* that is not thinking properly here. This is not to be thought of as a web-page, but a web application. With that, you can't ever compare it to SquirrelMail and the like. GMail is just the tip of the iceburg when it comes to Web 2.0 and they've conformed. Roundcube is **not** like gMail, nor will it ever be.

Roundcube is to be an application within the Web browser framework. No it's not just supposed to be Thunderbird, but just generally it's an application within the bounds of a web-browser. No different than a word-processor is within an operating system. This is what Web 2.0 is about. Getting people away from thinking of the web as the usual page-by-page design, and creating more interactive, and useful **applications**, not pages.

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