On 14-05-07 04:51 PM, Paul Boddie wrote:
I'll let people with stronger opinions about accessibility speak for
themselves, but one thing I was told by someone with a far greater depth of
knowledge and experience on this topic than me was that people with greater
accessibility demands than those of the average user do actually want to use
the same applications as everybody else, or at least many of them do.

that's quite interesting. i assumed that the number of people wanting to use the same applications would be small, as it would seem that something designed for the sighted would be difficult to navigate with a screen reader - i find using a browser with only a keyboard to be a frustrating experience, i can only imagine it could be moreso with a screen reader.

now that i write that, it occurs to me i was being a bit too black and white - there are a lot of levels between sighted and non-sighted; i was only thinking about one case (fully non-sighted). and overlooking the desire of people to fit in, which i don't have any personal experience in here.

Another concern is that accessibility is used as an argument against Roundcube
in cases of procurement, especially in public organisations. I briefly
investigated this last year and found various things that might be improved,
but at the same time it did seem like the various JavaScript libraries used by
Roundcube do support various ARIA annotations. (I can dig out my list of
findings, though.) I recently learned that various supposed accessibility
deficiencies in Roundcube were eventually no longer a concern for one
organisation whose procurement practices I had been tracking, but it appears
that the uncertainty was sufficient to use as an excuse to migrate webmail
(and indeed the entire e-mail infrastructure) to something else.

Having a strong accessibility reputation would be beneficial for Roundcube not
just because it would ensure the solution's usability for the maximum number
of potential end-users, but also because it would undermine the kind of
whisper campaign that somehow manages to get it disqualified in favour of all-
in-one proprietary systems in organisations like the one mentioned above. Such
disqualifications and exclusions undermine both Roundcube adoption - not nice
if you prefer Roundcube to other webmail solutions - as well as Free Software
and open standards adoption, ultimately threatening the viability of those
things and of Roundcube itself.

Sorry for the lengthy and slightly tangential response, but I strongly feel
that sometimes the best way to counter the kind of misinformation that is
spread when there is money to be made by aggressive proprietary software
vendors - at the expense of great software like Roundcube (and often at the
expense of users and taxpayers) - is to be able to demonstrate a robust and
complete solution that can be shown to fully address all areas of potential
concern. Accessibility is one of those areas.

not at all. you present an interesting and compelling case. this cleared up things for me, and hopefully for others as well.

i suppose even if there are better tools for an individual, an organization might still want to provide a tool that could be used (albeit perhaps less efficiently) by all just simply because it would make things easier to support.
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