On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 16:06 +0200, Markus Lehtonen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 18:53 +0100, Dominig ar Foll (Intel OTC) wrote:
> > Hello,
> > In the proposed wiki page for Tizen Distro Workflow
> >     https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Tizen-Distro_Workflow
> > 
> > I would like to open the discussion on the specific issue of maintaining
> > Tizen evolution and resynchronisation with newer release of Yocto.
> > 
> > 1) Source code sync seems covered
> > -----------------------------------------------
> > My reading is that for the majority of our work which is modifying code,
> > the process covers the need.
> > The code would be changed in git which is reviewed in gerrit and
> > triggers a test build in a Yocto buildbot and then a build in an OBS.
> > Code is unique but shared by the two build systems.
> > 
> > "only tricky" cases will be induced by code which will build on one
> > subsystem and not on the other.
> > So far, I am happy to assume that is will be rare.
> > 
> > 2) A change is required in the Meta-data
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > For any reason a change is required in the building meta data, new
> > dependency, special case to support and architecture, ...
> > In reality those changes are not frequent but do occurs.
> > 
> > I would like to better understand your proposition. Could you please
> > confirm or reject my understanding and explain better what is your
> > proposition if you feel that I missed the point.
> > 
> > A) The developer should do a modification on the Yocto side (bb files/
> > layers) as the OBS side (spec) are generated automatically from the bb
> > files/layers.
> 
> The proposal would allow for packages to not have automatic
> conversion from bb to spec. Allow developers to maintain the
> the packaging information in .spec for a transition period.
> At some point, automatic conversion would be used for all
> packages.
> 
> In the other thread with Patrick we had discussion about this.
> Periodic check/sync of the packaging metadata of these packages
> would be needed for the transition period.
> 
> 
> > B) Should the developer always create a bbappend file to contain his
> > changes or can he patch the bb files directly.
> > Note the later is far easier for him but make the realignment with the
> > next revision of Yocto would be become more complex.
> > Could you explain your vision on the process when a realignment with
> > Yocto will be required.
> 
> All Tizen-specific modifications would be in Tizen-specic layer
> in tizen-distro. IMO, using bbappends would be the (strongly)
> suggested way to modify oe-core packages. Bb files only to be
> used if absolutely necessary.
> 
> Re-alignment with oe-core (or any other "upstream" layers) would be
> something like:
> 0. In a staging environment...
> 1. Pull patches from upstream layers
> 2. Find orphan bbappend files (i.e. for the cases oe-core has done
>    version bump but Tizen's bb points to the old version)
> 3. Rebase orphan bbappend files
> 4. Run test build and fix problems
> 5. When happy, merge the changes.
> 
> This wouldn't be automatic, but done in controlled manner by the
> distro maintainers.
> 
> 
> > C) In your proposal, the bb files would be associate to each package in
> > Tizen what is different from the traditional Yocto unified model.
> > How the developer will have a view of all the meta data affecting his
> > package in order to propose a change from that reduced vision ?
> 
> I think that in order to effectively work with the .bb metadata
> the developer needs to use the tizen-distro combined repository.
> 
> There will be a helper tool (supposedly git-buildpackage) that
> helps working with the tizen-distro and per-pkg repositories.
> Good that you brought this up because I need to add a proposal
> of the helper tool to the wiki, too.

I added a new wiki page to describe the developer's view, the
git-buildpackage tool and the per-package repository content:
https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Tizen-Distro_Developer_Workflow#Non-native_packages

I'm will add references a prototype implementation of
git-buildpackage-bb soon.



[..SNIP..]

> > Thanks in advance for your clarifications.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for your questions. I hope my answer shed some light over the
> subject. Obviously, there still are murky and unresolved questions
> and the whole setup is complex. I will update the wiki page based
> on the comments from you and Patrick.

I made updates to the wiki page. Mainly regarding automatic rpm metadata
generation under "RPM vs. BitBake packaging meta data" and manual
synchronization under "Syncing of external repositories".


Thanks,
  Markus

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