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Ralph > On Oct 25, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Ralph > > Could you assist with getting artifacts up to downloads.apache.org? I'm going > to push the nupkg because people are waiting on it, and will have to set the > new documentation live because people will expect it, but right now, the > download links are broken. > > Thanks > -d > > On 2020/10/25 01:21:15, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > My +1 > > Ralph > >> On Sep 22, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Davyd McColl wrote: >> >> Thanks all; I've completed the release as far as I can (Ralph, please push >> the relevant artifacts from >> https://github.com/apache/logging-log4net/releases/tag/rel%2F2.0.11 the last >> mile) and pushed the nuget package. >> >> -d >> >> On 2020/09/22 17:34:34, Matt Sicker wrote: >> +1 >> >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 04:23 Dominik Psenner wrote: >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Sent from my phone. Typos are a kind gift to anyone who happens to find >>> >>> them. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 08:37 Davyd McColl wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi all >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'd appreciate any more +1's (thanks, Remko!). I'd like to get this out >>> >>>> the door because it fixes confusing versioning on the released binaries >>> (in >>> >>>> particular, nuget consumers) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thanks >>> >>>> -d >>> >>>>> On 2020/09/20 22:33:49, Matt Sicker wrote: >>> >>>> I can use whatever. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 15:26, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I don’t have google meet and I can’t use Skype since Microsoft hosed my >>> >>>> authentication. I have zoom. My company uses Amazon Chime, which is >>> fairly >>> >>>> new, as part of our product offering. I’ve sent you both emails for a >>> >>>> meeting using that. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Ralph >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I sent a Google Meet invite to you. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 14:26, Davyd McColl wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> I'm happy to be available at 8am my side, if that works for everyone >>> >>>> else. >>> >>>>>>> It sounds like earlier would be better, but I'm doing the morning >>> >>>> school >>> >>>>>>> run from 7am and can't guarantee I'll be back significantly before >>> >>>> 8am. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> How to do this? I have zoom and slack on my work machine, can >>> install >>> >>>>>>> Skype if that's more convenient, can do google meet, I assume, >>> though >>> >>>>>>> haven't ever tried, so may need a bit of a crash intro. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> If posting meeting details to the mailing list is not on, feel free >>> to >>> >>>>>>> email me directly (: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> -d >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> On September 20, 2020 20:58:29 Ralph Goers wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> 8am in Durban South Africa is 11pm the night before in Phoenix AZ. >>> >>>>>>>> However, I frequently am up until midnight so that could work. >>> >>>> 5-5:30 pm is >>> >>>>>>>> 7:30-8 am in Phoenix. I usually am not in front of my computer on a >>> >>>> weekday >>> >>>>>>>> until 8 am but on occasion I can do earlier. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Ralph >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Davyd McColl wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Any time 08h00 - 17h30 utc+2, except 13h00-14h00 (that's when I >>> >>>> fetch my >>> >>>>>>>>> son from school) >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> -d >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On September 20, 2020 18:44:19 Matt Sicker wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> We’re not quite as strict as Debian for keys (though if you can >>> >>>> find a >>> >>>>>>>>>> Debian group locally, they’re great for key signing). The video >>> >>>> call idea >>> >>>>>>>>>> could work for exchanging keys. What times would you be available >>> >>>> to do >>> >>>>>>>>>> that? >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 03:09 Davyd McColl wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ralph >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think I miscommunicated: I'm not regenerating my signing key - >>> >>>> just the >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> nuget API key for package upload. This forces me to log in in >>> >>>> nuget.org >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> which has 2fa and then I only use that key on the cli for the >>> >>>> immediate >>> >>>>>>>>>>> upload. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> My gpg key as at https://GitHub.com/fluffynuts.gpg is the same >>> >>>> that I >>> >>>>>>>>>>> used >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> last time. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> -d >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> On September 20, 2020 09:01:36 Ralph Goers >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In the long run you don’t want to be regenerating your signing >>> >>>> key for >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> every release. The point is that you would upload the key to a >>> >>>> central >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> keystore and other people would sign it there. At ApacheCon we >>> >>>> would >>> >>>>>>>>>>> have a >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> key signing “party” where we recorded each others keys and then >>> >>>> would >>> >>>>>>>>>>> take >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> our list and update the central keystore. When people verify >>> the >>> >>>> key >>> >>>>>>>>>>> they >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> can look at the keystore and see that it is signed by a number >>> of >>> >>>>>>>>>>> people, >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> who then have their keys by a number of people and so on so you >>> >>>> are >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> building a web of trust. Sooner or later there will be someone >>> >>>> in that >>> >>>>>>>>>>> web >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that you personally know and trust. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Davyd McColl wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Matt, I've updated the artifacts on GitHub to have >>> >>>> detached >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> signatures. I had previously also uploaded my key to >>> >>>> sks-keyservers.net, >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but I've also uploaded to MIT, though search there always >>> times >>> >>>> out. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The document you've linked mentions face-to-face interactions >>> >>>> to get my >>> >>>>>>>>>>> key >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> into the official KEYS file. Not sure how many apache people >>> >>>> are at my >>> >>>>>>>>>>> end >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the world (Durban, South Africa), but I can do an online >>> >>>> meeting if >>> >>>>>>>>>>> that >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> helps. Last release, Ralph said I should sign, so I did. I'm >>> >>>> new to >>> >>>>>>>>>>> signing >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> release artifacts - I've generally relied on authentication >>> >>>> during >>> >>>>>>>>>>> upload >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> as verification of authenticity, with 2FA wherever possible >>> >>>> (GitHub and >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> NPM; nuget survives with an apikey - but for the last 2 >>> >>>> releases, I've >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> regenerated the key on each use and only supplied it on the >>> cli >>> >>>> at >>> >>>>>>>>>>> upload, >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so as not to store it locally) >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -d >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On September 19, 2020 22:23:41 Matt Sicker wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and there's a bit of an issue with the signed files: it >>> >>>> looks like >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you included _signed files_ rather than detached signatures. >>> >>>> Thus, the >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .asc files are only verifying themselves rather than the >>> >>>> accompanying >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> file. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a --detached option in gpg for this (yeah, it's >>> always >>> >>>> had a >>> >>>>>>>>>>> bad UI). >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 15:19, Matt Sicker wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The KEYS file [1] that's linked on the download page does >>> not >>> >>>> have >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your key in it. Neither does other KEYS file [2]. Check out >>> >>>> [3] for >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more info. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]: https://downloads.apache.org/logging/log4net/KEYS >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]: https://downloads.apache.org/logging/KEYS >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]: >>> >>>> https://infra.apache.org/release-signing.html#keys-policy >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 12:48, Davyd McColl wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Matt, I've done so. Hopefully that makes it easier >>> to >>> >>>> verify >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artifacts that I have signed. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -d >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On September 18, 2020 23:11:48 Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you upload your key to your GitHub profile, that also >>> >>>> makes it >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple to find. For example, just add ".gpg" to your >>> >>>> profile URL: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/fluffynuts.gpg >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 16:08, Remko Popma >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 remko >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 5:56 AM Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about your gpg key? I don't think we've imported >>> that >>> >>>> to >>> >>>>>>>>>>> the KEYS >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file as far as I can tell? >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 15:53, Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh sorry, I didn't notice that you uploaded them there >>> >>>>>>>>>>> (wasn't even >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware that it was possible to be honest). >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 14:43, Davyd McColl >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Matt >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release artifacts are available on the GitHub release >>> >>>> page >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://GitHub.com/Apache/logging-log4net/releases) >>> - >>> >>>>>>>>>>> expand the >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assets >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list if it's collapsed. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll need someone to upload them to the downloads >>> source >>> >>>>>>>>>>> as I >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think I >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have access to do so (if I'm wrong, I'd love to be >>> >>>>>>>>>>> corrected, >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be less of an annoyance then!). Ralph has stepped in >>> to >>> >>>>>>>>>>> help here in >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the past. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -d >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On September 18, 2020 20:09:07 Matt Sicker < >>> >>>>>>>>>>> boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have links to the release artifacts? The >>> >>>> download >>> >>>>>>>>>>> page >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the live site which doesn't have the artifacts yet >>> >>>> since >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're not >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released yet. :) >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 09:05, Davyd McColl >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have another potential release available: 2.0.11, >>> >>>>>>>>>>> tagged as >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rc/2.0.11 >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Changes are really minor: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - fixed assembly versioning (all assemblies should >>> >>>>>>>>>>> report >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.0.11.0 >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as their >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version now) >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - properly dispose of StreamWriters within logging >>> >>>>>>>>>>> appenders >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (thanks to >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @NicholasNoise) >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Binaries are up at >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> https://github.com/apache/logging-log4net/releases/tag/rc%2F2.0.11 >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I've >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pushed to asf-staging for logging, now up at >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://logging.staged.apache.org/log4net/download_log4net.html >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -d >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>> Matt Sicker >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> Matt Sicker >>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >> Matt Sicker > >
