Hi all,

as far as I know, PMCs have the carma to create repos.

And sure ... happy to do a rough plan before starting to write code. As 
long as it's not like writing a RFC document. If you or someone here 
could setup a root document, we could start writing and drawing.

Chris


On 01.07.21 17:23, Ralph Goers wrote:
> Davyd,
> 
> You have commit rights but I am not sure if that gives you the ability to 
> create a new repo. But before doing that I would create a confluence page to 
> lay out the initial requirements and design.
> 
> If you can’t create a repo and would like one I can certainly help with that.
> 
> Ralph
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Davyd McColl <dav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm rather new to go, but looking for ways to improve by writing code 
>> alongside people who actually know what they're doing. If I can help, please 
>> ping me.
>>
>> -d
>>
>>
>> On June 30, 2021 18:12:46 Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> and sorry for being late to the party ;-)
>>>
>>> I am currently working hard on PLC4X' Go support and am also using what I 
>>> create in the Open-Source project in some larger corporate applications.
>>>
>>> One thing that has always bugged me with go, was the inavailability of 
>>> loggers that allow me to set different log levels for different parts of 
>>> the application. In go with every half-efficient logging framework, it's an 
>>> all or nothing thing. So if I want to track down a problem in my driver for 
>>> protocol X and I switch logging to TRACE it's like trying to drink out of 
>>> an open fire-hose.
>>>
>>> What I would love to do as a first step, and I don't think it should be too 
>>> complicated, would be to create a Go API that allows us to define 
>>> hierarchies of log levels, just like we know them in the Java world. This 
>>> API would be used in the application to log, but it wouldn't actually do 
>>> any logging but internally sort of use an underlying framework (possibly 
>>> auto configured to TRACE or the most talkative log level) and forward log 
>>> requests to that if it passes the filter criteria.
>>>
>>> So in PLC4Go for example we could use this Go Logging API. If my company 
>>> now uses logrus or zerolog, then all we have to do in that application is 
>>> initialize the log4go system (I know there's a project using that name 
>>> pattern ... I'm referring to something we built) with the corresponding 
>>> adapter.
>>>
>>> What do you think? I'm not one of these "I whish someone would build X for 
>>> me" folks ... I am willing to put quite some effort into something like 
>>> this. But I think it should be in a project like Apache Logging and not as 
>>> a side project of PLC4X.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2020/12/11 12:20:18 Volkan Yazıcı wrote:
>>>> I support the initiative. At bol.com, we also needed to implement our own
>>>> Go logging layouts (JSON) and appenders (Redis). That said, I don't know Go
>>>> and I don't think I will be able to spare time to both learn a new language
>>>> (even though I am really into learning Go) and maintain such a project. I
>>>> mean, not that you need my help, but just wanted to share my availability.
>>>> If I would have time, I would rather clean up Log4j bugs piled up in JIRA.
>>>> I also agree with Matt that this would pave the road to standardizing the
>>>> logging configuration file formats across multiple languages.
>>>> What I witness most for code — in particular libraries, APIs, etc. —
>>>> written by programmers whose expertise is actually in another language,
>>>> that they mostly don't get the language conventions right. For instance, I
>>>> was horrified many times in the past to read/use Java code written by
>>>> JavaScript (front-end) developers. These two languages have totally
>>>> different approaches and (community embraced) conventions that one cannot
>>>> plug-n-play the mindset of one to another. In conclusion, as far as I know,
>>>> none of us is programming in Go on a daily basis. Hence, I strongly
>>>> recommend consulting to experts in this domain before publishing something
>>>> to the outside world. For one, I am pretty sure there should be Go experts
>>>> within the Apache community, hence having expert reviews should be
>>>> relatively easy. Second, Apache has such a good track record in delivering
>>>> high quality software, even an inferior project might get quite some
>>>> attraction and we will be bound to maintain it for years. These are my
>>>> concerns in general. That said, I would be more than happy to ditch off our
>>>> custom Go loggers with an Apache-approved alternative.
>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:29 PM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> The company I work for has started using Go for some of the middleware
>>>>> components we are developing. I have looked at several logging frameworks
>>>>> for Go and have not been impressed by any of them. As such, I am
>>>>> considering starting a project here. The major goals of this would be:
>>>>>
>>>>> Use an external configuration (at least JSON and XML).
>>>>> Allow the configuration to be accessed via HTTP(S) - Spring Cloud
>>>>> Configuration.
>>>>> Allow dynamic reconfiguration.
>>>>> Allow plugins (probably as Go plugins?)
>>>>> Support for Markers, context attributes, Layouts, Appenders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone interested?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>>
> 
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