Hey Gary,

I'd appreciate your response on this `dev@` thread. I am cleaning up all
repositories and trying to either (in order of preference)

   1. delete them (since they are practically empty or irrelevant)
   2. archive them (clearly communicate it to the users that nobody is
   working on these projects, they are not maintained, etc. the repository is
   there only for archival purposes. note the archival is a reversible
   operation.)
   3. modernize them (make `./mvnw clean verify` work flawlessly on
   multiple platforms, erect the CI, updated dependencies, setup `dependabot`,
   clean up `pom.xml`s, docs, `README.adoc`, etc.)

>From this point of view, we (Ralph, Piotr, and me) are in favor of
archiving `logging-log4j-server` and moving the `log4j-server` module to
`logging-log4j-samples`, which is completely modernized. Is that okay with
you?


On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 8:25 PM Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:

> Gary, you haven't replied to this question of mine yet. I'd like to
> know more about your use case.
>
> I had a call with Ralph and he stated `log4j-server` is not usable
> without customizations. Hence, he added, it is better suited to
> `log4j-samples`. I liked this idea. Do you have any objections if we
> archive the `log4j-server` and move its content to `log4j-samples`
> instead?
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 3:16 PM Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
> >
> > The project doesn't have any releases, how do you use it at work? Note
> that once they are retired (i.e., archived) you will still have access to
> the sources.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 3:06 PM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, we use logging-log4j-server at work.
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 8:15 AM Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I propose retiring `logging-log4j-server`
> >> > <https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-server> and
> `logging-log4j-audit`
> >> > <https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-audit> repositories (which
> never
> >> > had any releases) and making it clear in their READMEs that these
> >> > repositories exist only for archival purposes. Objections?
>

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