Well, it's worse than that because the object is an object created by
parsing a YAML (or JSON) file, then the toString() of that object
renders a String in some other format.

Gary

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 7:45 PM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> Volkan & Matt,
>
> Neither of those is going to help. The issue is that when the toString method 
> is called it reads a whole file in and stores it as a String. This could 
> cause the OOM error. Truncating it in a layout simply limits how much of the 
> String is printed. Even Gary’s proposal of calling substring() is still going 
> to operate on the whole String. He would really need a method that accepts 
> the max number of characters to read from the file.
>
> Ralph
>
> > On Jan 25, 2024, at 2:49 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
> >
> > *[Just responding to Matt. I don't have an answer for Gary.]*
> >
> > `JsonTemplateLayout` has `maxStringLength`, and related with it,
> > `truncatedStringSuffix`.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:45 PM Matt Sicker <m...@musigma.org> wrote:
> >
> >> You can use the %maxLength{…}{N} pattern converter with PatternLayout at
> >> least. Unfortunately, I don’t think any other layouts support a similar
> >> option.
> >>
> >>> On Jan 25, 2024, at 10:55, Gary D. Gregory <ggreg...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to ask how to if we can devise advice around an issue I ran
> >> into this week.
> >>>
> >>> One of our test suites processes about 40K files of test fixtures. These
> >> inputs are parsed, processed, and asserted. This randomly fails on a call
> >> to Logger#debug(), randomly in that it happens usually once per build,
> >> somewhere in a logging call. But it usually fails with a call that looks
> >> like this:
> >>>
> >>> logger.debug("This is fun" + myFunObject);
> >>>
> >>> To simplify things, let's say that it turns out that after an underlying
> >> third party jar file version upgrade the call to myFunObject#toString() no
> >> longer returns Object#toString() but rather (again to simplify) the
> >> contents of the file that was parsed to create myFunObject. This toString()
> >> can be megabytes. The solution is obvious:
> >>>
> >>> logger.debug("This is fun", myFunObject::toString)
> >>>
> >>> And our CI builds no longer randomly fail since our default logging does
> >> not log at the debug level.
> >>>
> >>> A better solution could be:
> >>>
> >>> logger.debug("This is fun", () -> myFunObject.toString().substring(0,
> >> 100))
> >>>
> >>> where I still want _some_ information better than making my own
> >> toString() with System#identityHashCode(Object) or somesuch. Sure,
> >> .toString() is still called but it does not make it down into logging. In
> >> my case the OOME happened in myFunObject::toString so the substring()
> >> example would not have worked.
> >>>
> >>> My question is: Should we document some general advice on this pattern
> >> and what should the advice be? Would it make sense to have some features
> >> where we truncate/reject Strings above a threshold. And yes, calling
> >> myFunObject.toString() can still still get me in trouble.
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>

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