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Uwe Schindler commented on LUCENE-5609: --------------------------------------- To just explain, why you might have mutiple numeric fields and multiple queries: I have a customer with date ranges (they use precStep 8, 16 hurted much with ElasticSearch for a 100 GB index) and also for geo search here in-house (PANGAEA). If you have something like overlapping ranges, you need 2 queries with half open ranges. For example you have a date range on each document (start/end date of validity). The query on the index is also a date range and you want to find all documents that have overlapping ranges (validity range of document overlaps date range of query). In that case you need 2 half open queries (which are expensive with large precision steps). For stuff like bounding boxes in geo you might need if the bounding box of the document overlaps the bounding box of the query (Google Maps like query). Here you have 4 half open ranges, which almost always hit half of all your documents). With large precsteps this takes looooooooooong. So 8 is a good default, for my customer 16 took like 4 times as long as 8 (becausde of the half open ranges). With smaller precSteps half open ranges are very simple. With geonames you can check this: geonames have in most cases bounding boxes assigned and you want to search with bounding boxes, too. This is my example above. And those ranges (unless you want to find all documents completely inside the query range) are always 4 half open ones each hitting half of all documents. By anding them together, you later get the real results (conjunctionscorer). > Should we revisit the default numeric precision step? > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Key: LUCENE-5609 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-5609 > Project: Lucene - Core > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: core/search > Reporter: Michael McCandless > Fix For: 4.9, 5.0 > > > Right now it's 4, for both 8 (long/double) and 4 byte (int/float) > numeric fields, but this is a pretty big hit on indexing speed and > disk usage, especially for tiny documents, because it creates many (8 > or 16) terms for each value. > Since we originally set these defaults, a lot has changed... e.g. we > now rewrite MTQs per-segment, we have a faster (BlockTree) terms dict, > a faster postings format, etc. > Index size is important because it limits how much of the index will > be hot (fit in the OS's IO cache). And more apps are using Lucene for > tiny docs where the overhead of individual fields is sizable. > I used the Geonames corpus to run a simple benchmark (all sources are > committed to luceneutil). It has 8.6 M tiny docs, each with 23 fields, > with these numeric fields: > * lat/lng (double) > * modified time, elevation, population (long) > * dem (int) > I tested 4, 8 and 16 precision steps: > {noformat} > indexing: > PrecStep Size IndexTime > 4 1812.7 MB 651.4 sec > 8 1203.0 MB 443.2 sec > 16 894.3 MB 361.6 sec > searching: > Field PrecStep QueryTime TermCount > geoNameID 4 2872.5 ms 20306 > geoNameID 8 2903.3 ms 104856 > geoNameID 16 3371.9 ms 5871427 > latitude 4 2160.1 ms 36805 > latitude 8 2249.0 ms 240655 > latitude 16 2725.9 ms 4649273 > modified 4 2038.3 ms 13311 > modified 8 2029.6 ms 58344 > modified 16 2060.5 ms 77763 > longitude 4 3468.5 ms 33818 > longitude 8 3629.9 ms 214863 > longitude 16 4060.9 ms 4532032 > {noformat} > Index time is with 1 thread (for identical index structure). > The query time is time to run 100 random ranges for that field, > averaged over 20 iterations. TermCount is the total number of terms > the MTQ rewrote to across all 100 queries / segments, and it gets > higher as expected as precStep gets higher, but the search time is not > that heavily impacted ... negligible going from 4 to 8, and then some > impact from 8 to 16. > Maybe we should increase the int/float default precision step to 8 and > long/double to 16? Or both to 16? -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.2#6252) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org