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Timothy Potter commented on SOLR-5468:
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Hoping to commit this in the next couple of days. Any feedback before then 
would be appreciated.

> Option to enforce a majority quorum approach to accepting updates in SolrCloud
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>
>                 Key: SOLR-5468
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-5468
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: SolrCloud
>    Affects Versions: 4.5
>         Environment: All
>            Reporter: Timothy Potter
>            Assignee: Timothy Potter
>            Priority: Minor
>         Attachments: SOLR-5468.patch, SOLR-5468.patch
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> I've been thinking about how SolrCloud deals with write-availability using 
> in-sync replica sets, in which writes will continue to be accepted so long as 
> there is at least one healthy node per shard.
> For a little background (and to verify my understanding of the process is 
> correct), SolrCloud only considers active/healthy replicas when acknowledging 
> a write. Specifically, when a shard leader accepts an update request, it 
> forwards the request to all active/healthy replicas and only considers the 
> write successful if all active/healthy replicas ack the write. Any down / 
> gone replicas are not considered and will sync up with the leader when they 
> come back online using peer sync or snapshot replication. For instance, if a 
> shard has 3 nodes, A, B, C with A being the current leader, then writes to 
> the shard will continue to succeed even if B & C are down.
> The issue is that if a shard leader continues to accept updates even if it 
> loses all of its replicas, then we have acknowledged updates on only 1 node. 
> If that node, call it A, then fails and one of the previous replicas, call it 
> B, comes back online before A does, then any writes that A accepted while the 
> other replicas were offline are at risk to being lost. 
> SolrCloud does provide a safe-guard mechanism for this problem with the 
> leaderVoteWait setting, which puts any replicas that come back online before 
> node A into a temporary wait state. If A comes back online within the wait 
> period, then all is well as it will become the leader again and no writes 
> will be lost. As a side note, sys admins definitely need to be made more 
> aware of this situation as when I first encountered it in my cluster, I had 
> no idea what it meant.
> My question is whether we want to consider an approach where SolrCloud will 
> not accept writes unless there is a majority of replicas available to accept 
> the write? For my example, under this approach, we wouldn't accept writes if 
> both B&C failed, but would if only C did, leaving A & B online. Admittedly, 
> this lowers the write-availability of the system, so may be something that 
> should be tunable?
> From Mark M: Yeah, this is kind of like one of many little features that we 
> have just not gotten to yet. I’ve always planned for a param that let’s you 
> say how many replicas an update must be verified on before responding 
> success. Seems to make sense to fail that type of request early if you notice 
> there are not enough replicas up to satisfy the param to begin with.



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