You might want to push it back a week later than that. Some take extended vacations during the week of new years. (*shogatsu* or *oshogatsu) *is pretty popular in japan, Some people take extra days off to account for having to spend time with family during christmas etc.
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Troy Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > Scott, > > We should communicate on the public list as much as possible. I'll put > together the draft proposal today, post it here, and ask for feedback > from both the Lucene PMC and the community. We will wait over the > weekend and Monday to allow people who might have additional input the > opportunity to either see this at home or at work. > > On Tuesday (Jan 4th) we will move forward with whatever our best > effort has produced and go from there. > > Thanks, > Troy > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Lombard, Scott > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > From everything that was said it seems apparent to me that the only way > for Lucene.Net to stay alive is to move back to incubation. So where do we > go from here? More than 4 people have said they are willing to be > committers. Is this email list the best place to start working on a > proposal, should it be done between a small group offline or is there a way > that the community can work on it together? > > > > Thoughts? > > Scott > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Troy Howard [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 2:22 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: RE: Vote thread started on [email protected] > > > > Marco, > > > > I agree with you on this front. I feel that the first tasks that a new > > Lucene.Net team should focus on, in terms of development are: > > > > - Fully automating a line-by-line port using a tool such as Sharpen. > > This needs to become a commodity function requiring very little > > development effort > > - Bring the existing forks back in as branches within the ASF project. > > I am very interested in pursuing continued development on a more .NET > > style port (i.e. the Lucere project I started or Aimee.Net > > > > The Lucene.Net project should be able to continue with both > > development paths in the same project. > > > > Thanks, > > Troy > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Marco Dissel <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> What will be the goal of new committors? Convert the source into .net > style > >> code? If yes, we should try to stop will all the spin-offs and > concentrate > >> all the development in one project. > >> Op 30 dec. 2010 19:02 schreef "Lombard, Scott" < > [email protected]> > >> het volgende: > >>> Grant, > >>> > >>> Thanks for your time explaining all the details. I will be willing work > on > >> a proposal to put Lucene.Net back in to incubation. I will need other > people > >> to step up and be committers as well. Heath has volunteered and as Grant > has > >> stated 4 committers are needed to for incubation. Who else is willing to > be > >> a committer? > >>> > >>> Grant I will definitely be taking you up on your offer to help on bring > >> Lucene.Net into incubation. > >>> > >>> Scott > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:32 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: Vote thread started on [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> On Dec 30, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Heath Aldrich wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Grant, > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for taking the time to respond. > >>>> > >>>> While I have developed extensively against Lucene.net, I do not > possess > >> the java skills needed to do a port of the code... So, while I wouldn't > mind > >> being a committer, I do not think I am qualified. (I guess if I was, I > could > >> just use Lucene proper and that would be that) > >>>> > >>>> As to other duties of a committer, I think the ASF is perceived as a > >> black box of questions for most of us. > >>>> > >>>> For one, I don't think anyone outside the 4 committers even understand > >> *why* it is a good thing to be on the ASF vs. CodePlex, Sourceforge, > etc. > >> Maybe if there was an understanding of the why, the requirements of the > ASF > >> would make more sense. I think a lot of us right now just perceive the > ASF > >> as the group that is wanting to kill Lucene.net. > >>> > >>> I don't think we have a desire to kill it, I just think we are faced > with > >> the unfortunate reality that the project is already dead and now us on > the > >> PMC have the unfortunate job of cleaning up the mess as best we can. > Again, > >> it is not even that we want to see it go away, we on the PMC just don't > want > >> to be responsible for it's upkeep. You give me the names of 4 people who > are > >> willing to be committers (i.e. people willing to volunteer their time) > and I > >> will do my best to get the project into the Incubator. However, I have > to > >> tell you, my willingness to help is diminishing with every trip we take > >> around this same circle of discussion. > >>> > >>> Simply put, given the way the vote has gone so far, the Lucene PMC is > no > >> longer interested in sustaining this project. If the community wishes to > see > >> it live at the ASF then one of you had better step up and spend 20-30 > >> minutes of your time writing up the draft proposal (most of it can be > copied > >> and pasted) and circulating it. In fact, given the amount of time some > of > >> you have no doubt spent writing on this and other related threads you > could > >> have put together the large majority of the proposal, circulated the > draft > >> and got other volunteers to help and already be moving forward in a > positive > >> direction. Truth be told, I would do it, but I am explicitly not going > to > >> because I think that if the community can't take that one step to move > >> forward, then it truly doesn't deserve to. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I get your comments about the slower than slow development, but that > is > >> also somewhat of a sign that it works. While 2.9.2 may be behind, it > seems > >> very stable with very few issues. If we send the project to the attic, > how > >> will anyone be able to submit bugfixes ever? Frankly, I use 2.9.2 every > day > >> and have not found bugs in the areas that I use... but I'm sure they are > in > >> there somewhere. > >>>> > >>>> As for the name, I thought Lucene.net was the name of the project back > in > >> the SourceForge days... > >>>> So my question is based on the premise that "if the lucene.net name > was > >> brought *to* ASF, why can the community not leave with it?" > >>> > >>> Again, IANAL, but just b/c it was improperly used beforehand does not > mean > >> it is legally owned by some other entity. The Lucene name has been at > the > >> ASF since 2001 and Lucene.NET is also now a part of the ASF. 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