Because they are shipped with Solr.  I don't see why it hurts to give people 
information about what's in the download.


On Jan 8, 2011, at 8:10 AM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> From svn, Yonik seems to be the go-to guy for LICENSE and NOTICE stuff.  
> Yonik, do you remember why the HSQLDB and Jetty notice text was included in 
> Solr's NOTICE.txt?  The incubator won't release ManifoldCF until we answer 
> this question. ;-)
> 
> Karl
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: ext Robert Muir [[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:11 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: LICENSE/NOTICE file contents
> 
> You are probably right... the LICENSE.txt also contains many instances
> of incorrect capitalization, I noticed that all versions of of this
> file I can find anywhere have this problem :)
> 
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:14 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This list might be interested to know that the current Solr LICENSE and 
>> NOTICE file contents are not Apache standard.  The ManifoldCF project based 
>> its LICENSE and NOTICE files on the Solr ones and got the following icy 
>> reception in the incubator:
>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>> The NOTICE file is still incorrect and includes a lot of unnecessary
>> stuff. Understanding how to do releases with the correct legal files
>> is one of the important parts of incubation and as this is the first
>> release for the poddling i think this needs to be sorted out.
>> 
>> For the NOTICE file, start with the following text (between the ---'s):
>> 
>> ---
>> Apache ManifestCF
>> Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation
>> 
>> This product includes software developed by
>> The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
>> ---
>> 
>> and then add _nothing_ unless you can find explicit policy documented
>> somewhere in the ASF that says it is required. If someone wants to add
>> something ask for the URL where the requirement is documented. The
>> NOTICE file should only include required notices, the other text thats
>> in the current NOTICE file could go in a README file, see
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
>> 
>> For the LICENSE file, it should start with the AL as the current one
>> does, and then include the text for all the other licenses used in the
>> distribution. Those license that are currently in the NOTICE file
>> should be moved to the LICENSE file and then you need to verify that
>> all the 3rd party dependencies in the src and binary distributions are
>> also in the LICENSE files of those distributions.
>> 
>> <<<<<<
>> 
>> Our NOTICE includes the following, which was taken from Solr (because we 
>> have a similar dependency).  I'd like to know whether it is a valid thing to 
>> include, and where it says that "somewhere in Apache":
>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>> =========================================================================
>> ==     Jetty Notice                                                    ==
>> =========================================================================
>> ==============================================================
>> Jetty Web Container
>> Copyright 1995-2006 Mort Bay Consulting Pty Ltd
>> ==============================================================
>> 
>> This product includes some software developed at The Apache Software
>> Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
>> 
>> The javax.servlet package used by Jetty is copyright
>> Sun Microsystems, Inc and Apache Software Foundation. It is
>> distributed under the Common Development and Distribution License.
>> You can obtain a copy of the license at
>> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/public/CDDLv1.0.html.
>> 
>> The UnixCrypt.java code ~Implements the one way cryptography used by
>> Unix systems for simple password protection.  Copyright 1996 Aki Yoshida,
>> modified April 2001  by Iris Van den Broeke, Daniel Deville.
>> 
>> The default JSP implementation is provided by the Glassfish JSP engine
>> from project Glassfish http://glassfish.dev.java.net.  Copyright 2005
>> Sun Microsystems, Inc. and portions Copyright Apache Software Foundation.
>> 
>> Some portions of the code are Copyright:
>> 2006 Tim Vernum
>> 1999 Jason Gilbert.
>> 
>> The jboss integration module contains some LGPL code.
>> 
>> =========================================================================
>> ==     HSQLDB Notice                                                   ==
>> =========================================================================
>> 
>> For content, code, and products originally developed by Thomas Mueller and 
>> the Hypersonic SQL Group:
>> 
>> Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by the Hypersonic SQL Group.
>> All rights reserved.
>> 
>> Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
>> modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
>> 
>> Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this
>> list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>> 
>> Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice,
>> this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation
>> and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>> 
>> Neither the name of the Hypersonic SQL Group nor the names of its
>> contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
>> software without specific prior written permission.
>> 
>> THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS"
>> AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
>> IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
>> ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE HYPERSONIC SQL GROUP,
>> OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,
>> EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
>> PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES;
>> LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND
>> ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT
>> (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS
>> SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
>> 
>> This software consists of voluntary contributions made by many individuals 
>> on behalf of the
>> Hypersonic SQL Group.
>> 
>> For work added by the HSQL Development Group (a.k.a. hsqldb_lic.txt):
>> 
>> Copyright (c) 2001-2005, The HSQL Development Group
>> All rights reserved.
>> 
>> Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
>> modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
>> 
>> Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this
>> list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>> 
>> Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice,
>> this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation
>> and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>> 
>> Neither the name of the HSQL Development Group nor the names of its
>> contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
>> software without specific prior written permission.
>> 
>> THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS"
>> AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
>> IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
>> ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL HSQL DEVELOPMENT GROUP, HSQLDB.ORG,
>> OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,
>> EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
>> PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES;
>> LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND
>> ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT
>> (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS
>> SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
>> <<<<<<
>> 
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
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