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Alan Woodward commented on SOLR-4044:
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Moving the conversation over from SOLR-7146...

bq. Seems like clients should normally be read-only w.r.t. ZK.

This isn't the case at the moment - 
ZkStateReader.createClusterStateWatchersAndUpdate already calls ensureExists() 
on the aliases and clusterstate.json znodes.  I agree that it sounds like a 
good idea, though.

Maybe a nicer way forward would be:
* throw a 503 SolrServerException if any of the watcher nodes don't exist in 
ZkStateReader when cCSWAU is called
* add a sugar waitForCluster(timeout) method to CloudSolrClient that will 
repeatedly check zk for the relevant nodes

Also, if we want to really ensure that clients never actually change ZK, we 
could add a ReadOnlyZkClient that subclasses SolrZkClient and throws UOE on 
makePath() and setData(), and make CloudSolrClient use that.

> CloudSolrServer early connect problems
> --------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-4044
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-4044
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: SolrCloud
>    Affects Versions: 4.0
>            Reporter: Grant Ingersoll
>            Assignee: Mark Miller
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 4.9, Trunk
>
>         Attachments: SOLR-4044.patch
>
>
> If you call CloudSolrServer.connect() after Zookeeper is up, but before 
> clusterstate, etc. is populated, you will get "No live SolrServer" exceptions 
> (line 322 in LBHttpSolrServer):
> {code}
> throw new SolrServerException("No live SolrServers available to handle this 
> request");{code}
> for all requests made even though all the Solr nodes are coming up just fine. 
>  



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