Using x for a fix version is a pain for those of us dealing with
multiple clients, even though I'm probably guilty of that sometime. My
job often requires that I tell a client whether a particular fix is in
a particular version of Lucene/Solr or not. Having to take the extra
step of going from a JIRA found by searching to the CHANGES.txt file
to find out that "For SOLR-xxx, 6x was really 6.4.2" is a pain. And
that assumes that the JIRA was _entered_ in CHANGES.txt correctly. I
know I've mis-typed a JIRA number in CHANGES.txt a time or two.

It's vastly easier to see Fix Version: 6.7 even if 6.7 hasn't been
released. I know that without having to look anything up.

Christine's comments about asking the RM to update all of the tickets
marked with an "x" is an alternative but I dont' think making extra
work for the RM is reasonable when we can just get it right the first
time.

P.S. Mike:
I don't think I've ever seen an "x" version in CHANGES.txt, so I don't
think that's a problem. Could be wrong of course.

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> Christine,
>
> Wow, that's fantastic. You can also pass a --grep argument to git directly.
>
> Another problem that just occurred to me though, is that we might need to
> make updates to CHANGES files too. I'm not sure how to automate the check
> for that, since the format can be pretty messy.
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Christine Poerschke (BLOOMBERG/ LONDON)
> <cpoersc...@bloomberg.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Perhaps a little more context would help get us all on the same page re:
>> the "to 6.x or to not 6.x" tag question.
>>
>> === "to 6.x" tag ===
>>
>> So, some of us (myself included) for SOLR issues used to tag FixVersion
>> 6.x since the commit was to branch_6x and (at least myself) assumed that
>> when branch_6_7 is cut from branch_6x then the process would somehow
>> magically turn 6.x tags into 6.7 tags, and any subsequently added 6.x tags
>> become 6.8 in future etc.
>>
>> The 6.x to 6.7 transition would be an extra part of the release process
>> and if/since it isn't actually a part of the process then it's
>> retrospectively really really tedious to resolve 6.x to the correct
>> 6.something tag.
>>
>> === "to not 6.x" tag ===
>>
>> An alternative is always tag to a specific (future) version i.e. to _not_
>> 6.x tag anything and to let the released/unreleased categorisation take care
>> of the already-released vs. scheduled-to-be-released difference.
>>
>> === where we are now ===
>>
>> There are still some tickets tagged to 6.x and people looking at the
>> version dropdown choices will see 6.x as an existing choice. If/When no
>> tickets are tagged to 6.x anymore then the 6.x choice could be removed from
>> the dropdown choices leaving only specific versions to choose from.
>>
>> Having said all that, turning existing 6.x tagging into specific versions
>> is tedious but not totally impossible, I did a few yesterday using simple
>> git grep lookups:
>>
>> what=LUCENE-NNNN
>> for version in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 ; do
>> echo branch_6_$version
>> git log --decorate --oneline --graph origin/branch_6_$version | grep $what
>> done
>>
>> Hope that helps? What do people think?
>>
>> Christine
>>
>> From: dev@lucene.apache.org At: 05/25/17 14:08:37
>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org, dawid.we...@gmail.com, jpou...@apache.org,
>> luc...@mikemccandless.com, kwri...@apache.org, u...@thetaphi.de
>> Subject: Re: Strange Solr JIRA versions (Lucene too!)
>>
>> Lucene devs, lets get on the same page about this issue.
>>
>> Dawid seems to _want_ to use 6.x
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7841?focusedCommentId=16024639&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16024639
>> Christine and I are the only ones to have commented about this pertaining
>> to LUCENE JIRA issues.  Lets have this conversation here, not on
>> LUCENE-7841.
>>
>> ~ David
>>
>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:28 AM David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Aha; this problem is a little more than a nuisance... it seems to be why
>>> most of these issues are marked Resolved and not Closed as well.  The RM's
>>> release process is to search for JIRA issues with a fix version of the
>>> release version (i.e. 6.6 NOT 6.x).  Issues that do not have a real version
>>> then fall through the cracks and remain in a "Resolved" limbo/ambiguity:
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20LUCENE%20AND%20status%20in%20(Resolved)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%206.x%20ORDER%20BY%20fixVersion%20ASC%2C%20assignee%20ASC
>>> And thus it's unclear to users browsing these issues in JIRA for which
>>> version the issue was released in.
>>>
>>> ~ David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:16 AM David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It seems this issue applies to Lucene too, and it's more widespread (79
>>>> issues):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20LUCENE%20AND%20status%20in%20(Resolved%2C%20Closed)%20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20(6.x%2C%20branch_6x)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM Cassandra Targett
>>>> <casstarg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed these the other day also, and had an email half-wrote that I
>>>>> intended to finish up today.
>>>>>
>>>>> To start, JIRA unfortunately makes this really easy to make a mess of
>>>>> - if you can create or edit an issue, you can just pop in a new value
>>>>> that gets added to the list of open versions. Editing an issue is open
>>>>> to lots of folks - committers, contributors, the reporter of an issue.
>>>>> So, we have high potential for this to be an ongoing problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, since only committers can commit patches and are thus the usual
>>>>> resolvers of an issue, committers either aren't paying enough
>>>>> attention to that field when they resolve an issue or there is
>>>>> confusion/difference of understanding about what that field is
>>>>> supposed to mean.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are currently 49 issues for Solr that have these "non-standard"
>>>>> versions [1]. Some date back before the most recent 6.5.0 release,
>>>>> which means there are issues fixed in 6.4 and 6.5 (at least) which
>>>>> don't say so in JIRA.
>>>>>
>>>>> This could be really problematic going forward. We need to agree that
>>>>> when issues are resolved, the fixVersion field is reliable and means
>>>>> the same thing to everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO we should always use the *next* version that makes sense at that
>>>>> time. So, an issue resolved today would be "6.6" and "master (7.0)".
>>>>> Others may have different points of view on how we should do this, but
>>>>> I think traditionally it's been the way I suggest, so if there is
>>>>> change desired there, we should discuss it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Side note: I know there is some doubt today that 6.6 will ever exist.
>>>>> However, it will be a lot easier to go through JIRA to remove "6.6"
>>>>> from issues that aren't in 6.x than it will be to review
>>>>> issue-by-issue everything that says "6x" or "6.x" or "branch_6x",
>>>>> etc., and figure out when it was actually released.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cassandra
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] Query for JIRA issues:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20status%20in%20(Resolved%2C%20Closed)%20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20(6.x%2C%206x%2C%20branch_6x)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Who keeps adding strange JIRA release versions? I've cleaned up
>>>>> > strange ones
>>>>> > in the past and they keep coming back.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Why do we have branch6x, 6x and 6.x and trunk?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Even if we wanted more than 6.1, 6.2, 6.2.1 and master (7.0), and I
>>>>> > don't
>>>>> > think we do, who keeps adding these duplicates? Let's come to some
>>>>> > sanity
>>>>> > here.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > - Mark
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > - Mark
>>>>> > about.me/markrmiller
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