Alas, I had marked a few blockers for "7.0". Thanks Mike Drob for taking
care of it!

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 1:13 AM, David Smiley <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I deleted it just now.  For those with Karma, you have to go to the
> "Administration" section, then "Show All" next to the Versions dashboard
> section, after which you can then do things like delete versions.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-
> config/SOLR/versions
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:31 PM Mike Drob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info. I went ahead and retagged all of the 7.0 versions as
>> master (7.0), but the version is still in JIRA options. Somebody else with
>> more karma is going to have to go in to project administration and delete
>> it (until the next time somebody accidentally creates it).
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Joel Bernstein <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe I created 7.0 by mistake. I just mistyped once and I think it
>>> added 7.0 as an option.
>>>
>>> Joel Bernstein
>>> http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Mark Miller <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, master is the right one historically. 7.0 was probably another
>>>> autocreated version we should not have. Horrible feature.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:04 PM Erick Erickson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been using master (7.0) too.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Joel Bernstein <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I've been using master (7.0).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Joel Bernstein
>>>>> > http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Mike Drob <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Reviving this old thread because I'm seeing a related issue on
>>>>> JIRA. When
>>>>> >> going to resolve an issue, I can set fix version to either "7.0" or
>>>>> "master
>>>>> >> (7.0)"
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I don't care which one we use, but having two is confusing and I'm
>>>>> sure
>>>>> >> will lead to a mistake somewhere down the line.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So... what's the consensus?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Mark Miller <[email protected]
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hossman is the only one that can swear more and get away with it.
>>>>> Pact
>>>>> >>> with the devil or something.
>>>>> >>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:41 AM Christine Poerschke (BLOOMBERG/
>>>>> LONDON)
>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Joining the conversation late here.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I've been using fixVersion 6.x in the honest belief that:
>>>>> >>>> * that was the done thing (and now i know that it isn't, oops)
>>>>> >>>> * what is displayed as 6.x now will in future become 6.6 (when
>>>>> 6.6 is
>>>>> >>>> released) or it will stay 6.x (if there is no 6.6 release)
>>>>> >>>> * if a 6.x label exists then it can and even should be used (that
>>>>> is not
>>>>> >>>> so)
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Thanks for bringing this up and for fixing the mislabeled issues.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Going forward I'm happy to keep an eye on this type of thing
>>>>> though I
>>>>> >>>> won't be able to match others on the "would have sworn more"
>>>>> style point you
>>>>> >>>> mention.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Christine
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> >>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> >>>> At: 04/14/17 17:22:44
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> If you look at the "history" tab on the JIRA you can see who set
>>>>> what
>>>>> >>>> values when. I checked 4-5 of the JIRAS and the person who set
>>>>> those
>>>>> >>>> has a long record of being very conscientious about changes so I'm
>>>>> >>>> certain it's just an awareness issue, at least for that person.
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> >>>> ping....
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Which suggests a way to raise awareness going forward: check the
>>>>> >>>> history and send a message.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> If that doesn't cure it we can consider harsher measures,
>>>>> although I
>>>>> >>>> don't think forbidding arbitrary labels is "harsh", it's just too
>>>>> bad
>>>>> >>>> we can't.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Erick
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Mark Miller <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> > I wish hossman was still more active in this type of thing. He
>>>>> would
>>>>> >>>> > have
>>>>> >>>> > sworn more and fixed it more meticulously and probably earlier.
>>>>> Or
>>>>> >>>> > maybe he
>>>>> >>>> > is sick of it after last time. Anyway, I did what I could,
>>>>> preserved
>>>>> >>>> > the
>>>>> >>>> > proper versions I could, and it's clean again for now.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > I'm halfway serious about the admin thing given you can easily
>>>>> auto
>>>>> >>>> > create
>>>>> >>>> > components and versions by accident. Maybe instead of giving it
>>>>> to
>>>>> >>>> > everyone
>>>>> >>>> > by default, we should be doing it by request.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > - Mark
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:29 AM Mark Miller <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> Perhaps everyone doesn't need to be a JIRA admin? Like people
>>>>> that
>>>>> >>>> >> add new
>>>>> >>>> >> bad versions in the future ;) This is no fun to cleanup.
>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> - Mark
>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:23 AM Mark Miller <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> >>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> >>> Bummer, seems we can't lock this down :(
>>>>> >>>> >>> https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRASERVER-42068
>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> >>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM Mark Miller <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> >>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM Cassandra Targett
>>>>> >>>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I noticed these the other day also, and had an email
>>>>> half-wrote
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> that I
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> intended to finish up today.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> To start, JIRA unfortunately makes this really easy to make
>>>>> a mess
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> of
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> - if you can create or edit an issue, you can just pop in a
>>>>> new
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> value
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> that gets added to the list of open versions. Editing an
>>>>> issue is
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> open
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> to lots of folks - committers, contributors, the reporter
>>>>> of an
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> issue.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> So, we have high potential for this to be an ongoing
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> Ah, that makes this a lot less baffling I guess.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> But, since only committers can commit patches and are thus
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> usual
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> resolvers of an issue, committers either aren't paying
>>>>> enough
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> attention to that field when they resolve an issue or there
>>>>> is
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> confusion/difference of understanding about what that field
>>>>> is
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> supposed to mean.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> There are currently 49 issues for Solr that have these
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> "non-standard"
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> versions [1]. Some date back before the most recent 6.5.0
>>>>> release,
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> which means there are issues fixed in 6.4 and 6.5 (at
>>>>> least) which
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> don't say so in JIRA.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> This could be really problematic going forward. We need to
>>>>> agree
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> that
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> when issues are resolved, the fixVersion field is reliable
>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> means
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> the same thing to everyone.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> +1!
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> IMO we should always use the *next* version that makes
>>>>> sense at
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> that
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> time. So, an issue resolved today would be "6.6" and "master
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> (7.0)".
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Others may have different points of view on how we should
>>>>> do this,
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> but
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I think traditionally it's been the way I suggest, so if
>>>>> there is
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> change desired there, we should discuss it.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> I agree.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Side note: I know there is some doubt today that 6.6 will
>>>>> ever
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> exist.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> However, it will be a lot easier to go through JIRA to
>>>>> remove
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> "6.6"
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> from issues that aren't in 6.x than it will be to review
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> issue-by-issue everything that says "6x" or "6.x" or
>>>>> "branch_6x",
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> etc., and figure out when it was actually released.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> +1. It also matches how we handle CHANGES afaict.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> I wish we could disable the auto creating of versions
>>>>> entirely
>>>>> >>>> >>>> somehow,
>>>>> >>>> >>>> but I guess the next best thing is to raise awareness. It's
>>>>> great
>>>>> >>>> >>>> to have
>>>>> >>>> >>>> the correct versions and in the correct ordering.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> - Mark
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> Cassandra
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> [1] Query for JIRA issues:
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%
>>>>> 3D%20SOLR%20AND%20status%20in%20(Resolved%2C%20Closed)%
>>>>> 20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20(6.x%2C%206x%2C%20branch_6x)
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Mark Miller
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > Who keeps adding strange JIRA release versions? I've
>>>>> cleaned up
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > strange ones
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > in the past and they keep coming back.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > Why do we have branch6x, 6x and 6.x and trunk?
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > Even if we wanted more than 6.1, 6.2, 6.2.1 and master
>>>>> (7.0),
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > and I
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > don't
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > think we do, who keeps adding these duplicates? Let's
>>>>> come to
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > some
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > sanity
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > here.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > - Mark
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > --
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > - Mark
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> > about.me/markrmiller
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
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>>>>> >>>> >>
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