I looked at the way that tests are run, an tthe only difference I see in the 
smoke tester jobs is that tests are run twice, once each for Java8 and Java9.  
Compared to non-smoke-tester jobs, this will double the likelihood of overall 
failure.

I looked at the suites that failed in the last ten runs on those two smoke 
tester jobs.  Except for SearchHandlerTest, which I have since (hopefully) 
fixed, there are seven suites with failed tests - here they are along with 
their packages:

  TestExecutePlanAction     o.a.s.cloud.autoscaling.sim
  TestComputePlanAction     o.a.s.cloud.autoscaling.sim
  TestTriggerIntegration    o.a.s.cloud.autoscaling.sim
  IndexSizeTriggerTest      o.a.s.cloud.autoscaling
  CreateRoutedAliasTest     o.a.s.cloud
  ReplaceNodeTest           o.a.s.cloud
  MetricsHistoryHandlerTest o.a.s.handler.admin

Some of those are pretty regular offenders AFAICT from 
http://fucit.org/solr-jenkins-reports/failure-report.html .

Andrzej Białecki did some work on IndexSizeTriggerTest (SOLR-12392) and 
un-bad-apple’d its tests, but at least one of them is still failing since then 
- I’ll go add a comment on the issue.

--
Steve
www.lucidworks.com

> On Jun 4, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Adrien:
> 
> "Do you know whether there is something that makes these jobs any different?"
> 
> Unfortunately no. I'm not really very well versed in the various test
> environments, maybe Uwe or Steve Rowe or Hoss might have some insight?
> 
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:34 AM, Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for helping on this front Erick. I noticed a significant decrease in
>> noise since you started badapple-ing bad tests, but I'm observing that our
>> smoke-release builds still keep failing because of Solr tests (10 out of the
>> last 10 builds) in spite of the fact that they disable bad apples:
>> - https://builds.apache.org/job/Lucene-Solr-SmokeRelease-master/
>> - https://builds.apache.org/job/Lucene-Solr-SmokeRelease-7.x/
>> 
>> Do you know whether there is something that makes these jobs any different?
>> 
>> Le mar. 29 mai 2018 à 18:12, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>> 
>>> With the long weekend and the fact that the number of non-BadApple
>>> tests is fairly small this week, I'll skip adding more BadApple tests
>>> until next week.
>>> 
>>> We're scarily close to the non-BaApple'd tests coming under  control.
>>> If we're lucky, we can draw a line in the sand soon then start working
>>> on the backlog. I'll be encouraged if we can start shrinking the
>>> BadApple'd tests.
>>> 
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Not adding badapples this week.
> Date: June 4, 2018 at 11:16:56 AM EDT
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Reply-To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> 
> Adrien:
> 
> "Do you know whether there is something that makes these jobs any different?"
> 
> Unfortunately no. I'm not really very well versed in the various test
> environments, maybe Uwe or Steve Rowe or Hoss might have some insight?
> 
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:34 AM, Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for helping on this front Erick. I noticed a significant decrease in
>> noise since you started badapple-ing bad tests, but I'm observing that our
>> smoke-release builds still keep failing because of Solr tests (10 out of the
>> last 10 builds) in spite of the fact that they disable bad apples:
>> - https://builds.apache.org/job/Lucene-Solr-SmokeRelease-master/
>> - https://builds.apache.org/job/Lucene-Solr-SmokeRelease-7.x/
>> 
>> Do you know whether there is something that makes these jobs any different?
>> 
>> Le mar. 29 mai 2018 à 18:12, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>> 
>>> With the long weekend and the fact that the number of non-BadApple
>>> tests is fairly small this week, I'll skip adding more BadApple tests
>>> until next week.
>>> 
>>> We're scarily close to the non-BaApple'd tests coming under  control.
>>> If we're lucky, we can draw a line in the sand soon then start working
>>> on the backlog. I'll be encouraged if we can start shrinking the
>>> BadApple'd tests.
>>> 
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>> 
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