That would be great. I wonder that we could also make the encoding a
bit more efficient. For instance I noticed that arc metadata is pretty
large in some cases (in the 10-20 bytes) which make gaps very costly.
Associating each label with a dense id and having an intermediate
lookup, ie. lookup label -> id and then id->arc offset instead of
doing label->arc directly could save a lot of space in some cases?
Also it seems that we are repeating the label in the arc metadata when
array-with-gaps is used, even though it shouldn't be necessary since
the label is implicit from the address?
Do you think we can have a mitigation for worst-case scenarii in 8.2
or should we revert from branch_8_2 to keep the release process going
and work on this for 8.3?
On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 5:12 PM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the nice test, Adrien. Yes, the tradeoff of direct
> addressing is heavily data-dependent. I think we can improve the
> situation here by tracking, per-FST instance, the size increase we're
> seeing while building (or perhaps do a preliminary pass before
> building) in order to decide whether to apply the encoding.
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:02 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I dug this a bit and suspect that the issue is mostly with one field
> > that is not part of the data but auto-generated: the ID field. It is a
> > slight variant of Flake IDs, so it's not random, it includes a
> > timestamp and a sequence number, and I suspect that its patterns
> > combined with the larger alphabet than ascii makes this size increase
> > more likely than with the data set you tested against.
> >
> > For instance I ran the following code with direct array addressing on
> > and off to simulate a worst-case scenario.
> >
> > public static void main(String[] args) throws IOException {
> > Directory dir = FSDirectory.open(Paths.get("/tmp/a"));
> > IndexWriter w = new IndexWriter(dir, new
> > IndexWriterConfig().setOpenMode(OpenMode.CREATE));
> > byte[] b = new byte[5];
> > Random r = new Random(0);
> > for (int i = 0; i < 1000000; ++i) {
> > r.nextBytes(b);
> > for (int j = 0; j < b.length; ++j) {
> > b[j] &= 0xfc; // make this byte a multiple of 4
> > }
> > Document doc = new Document();
> > StringField field = new StringField("f", new BytesRef(b), Store.NO);
> > doc.add(field);
> > w.addDocument(doc);
> > }
> > w.forceMerge(1);
> > IndexReader reader = DirectoryReader.open(w);
> > w.close();
> > if (reader.leaves().size() != 1) {
> > throw new Error();
> > }
> > LeafReader leaf = reader.leaves().get(0).reader();
> > System.out.println(((SegmentReader) leaf).ramBytesUsed());
> > reader.close();
> > dir.close();
> > }
> >
> > When direct addressing is enabled (default), I get 586079. If I
> > disable direct addressing by applying the below patch, then I get
> > 156228 - about 3.75x less.
> >
> > diff --git a/lucene/core/src/java/org/apache/lucene/util/fst/FST.java
> > b/lucene/core/src/java/org/apache/lucene/util/fst/FST.java
> > index f308f1a..ff99cc2 100644
> > --- a/lucene/core/src/java/org/apache/lucene/util/fst/FST.java
> > +++ b/lucene/core/src/java/org/apache/lucene/util/fst/FST.java
> > @@ -647,7 +647,7 @@ public final class FST<T> implements Accountable {
> > // array that may have holes in it so that we can address the
> > arcs directly by label without
> > // binary search
> > int labelRange = nodeIn.arcs[nodeIn.numArcs - 1].label -
> > nodeIn.arcs[0].label + 1;
> > - boolean writeDirectly = labelRange > 0 && labelRange <
> > Builder.DIRECT_ARC_LOAD_FACTOR * nodeIn.numArcs;
> > + boolean writeDirectly = false; // labelRange > 0 && labelRange
> > < Builder.DIRECT_ARC_LOAD_FACTOR * nodeIn.numArcs;
> >
> > //System.out.println("write int @pos=" + (fixedArrayStart-4) +
> > " numArcs=" + nodeIn.numArcs);
> > // create the header
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 2:33 PM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, both LUCENE-8781 and LUCENE-8895 were introduced in 8.2.0. I see
> > > most of the other data sets report an increase more in the 10-15%
> > > range, which is expected. I'm curious what the makeup of that http
> > > logs data set is -- I guess it's HTTP logs :) Is the data public?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 7:23 AM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The change to Lucene 8.2.0 snapshot was done on July 10th. Previous to
> > > > that the Lucene version was 8.1.0.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 12:53 PM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hmm that's possible, although the jump is bigger than anything I
> > > >> observed while testing. I assume these charts are building off of
> > > >> apache/master, or something close to that? If so, then the timing is
> > > >> off a bit. LUCENE-8781 was pushed quite a while before that, and then
> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8895 which extended the
> > > >> encoding to be the default (not just for postings) was pushed on July
> > > >> 2 or so, but the chart shows a jump on July 10?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 4:03 AM Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > We observed using a snapshot of Lucene 8.2 that there is an increase
> > > >> > of around 30% on the memory usage of IndexReaders for some of the
> > > >> > test datasets, for example:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > https://elasticsearch-benchmarks.elastic.co/#tracks/http-logs/nightly/default/30d
> > > >> >
> > > >> > We suspect this is due to this change:
> > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8781
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 7:10 AM David Smiley
> > > >> > <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Since there won't be any 8.1.2 yet some issues got fixed for 8.1.2
> > > >> >> and there is an 8.1.2 section in CHANGES.txt those issues might not
> > > >> >> be very noticeable to users that only look at the published HTML
> > > >> >> version (e.g.
> > > >> >> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/8_1_1/changes/Changes.html ). Maybe
> > > >> >> 8.1.2 should be integrated into 8.2.0 in CHANGES.txt? Despite
> > > >> >> this, I see at least one of those issues got into the curated
> > > >> >> release notes / highlights any way -- thanks Ignacio.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> ~ David Smiley
> > > >> >> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > > >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:40 AM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Please use HTTPS in the links to download pages.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Jan Høydahl
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> 12. jul. 2019 kl. 09:04 skrev Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Ishan: I had a look into the issues and I have no objections as
> > > >> >>> far as they get properly reviewed if possible. It will be good to
> > > >> >>> commit the shortly so they go through a few CI iterations in case
> > > >> >>> something gets broken. I am planning to build the first RC early
> > > >> >>> next week as there are no blockers for the release.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Steve: Than you so much, I need to work on getting the right
> > > >> >>> permissions.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Finally I wrote a draft for the release notes for Lucene and Solr.
> > > >> >>> It would be good if someone with more experience in Solr can
> > > >> >>> review/modify my attempt as it is difficult for me to know which
> > > >> >>> are the most important bits. Here are the links to the drafts (not
> > > >> >>> they are in wiki, let me know if you have problems accessing them):
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Lucene:
> > > >> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/resumedraft.action?draftId=120732808&draftShareId=cb366dc4-c136-4505-9c37-60bde5db2550&src=shareui&src.shareui.timestamp=1562914476369
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Solr:
> > > >> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/resumedraft.action?draftId=120732972&draftShareId=5cace703-b80b-49c4-a07f-55b891683f90&src=shareui&src.shareui.timestamp=1562914529931
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:36 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya
> > > >> >>> <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Hi Ignacio,
> > > >> >>>> I wish to include two security bug fixes (not vulnerabilities,
> > > >> >>>> but feature regressions due to Authorization plugin), SOLR-13472
> > > >> >>>> and SOLR-13619. I can commit both shortly, attempting to write a
> > > >> >>>> unit test for it (which is proving harder to do than reproducing,
> > > >> >>>> fixing and testing manually). Please let me know if you have any
> > > >> >>>> concerns.
> > > >> >>>> Regards,
> > > >> >>>> Ishan
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> On Thu, 11 Jul, 2019, 9:12 PM Tomoko Uchida,
> > > >> >>>> <tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> Hi Ignacio,
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> LUCENE-8907 was fixed. (I have reverted a series of commits which
> > > >> >>>>> cause backwards incompatibility on Lucene 8.x.)
> > > >> >>>>> Thank you for waiting for that!
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> Tomoko
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> 2019年7月11日(木) 22:44 Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de>:
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Hi,
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > I enabled the policeman Jenkins Jobs for 8.2 branch.
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Uwe
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > -----
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Uwe Schindler
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > https://www.thetaphi.de
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > eMail: u...@thetaphi.de
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > From: Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>
> > > >> >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:05 PM
> > > >> >>>>> > To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> > > >> >>>>> > Subject: Re: Lucene/Solr 8.2.0
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Hi,
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > The branch has been created, As a reminder, this branch is on
> > > >> >>>>> > feature freeze and only documentation or build patches should
> > > >> >>>>> > be committed. I will be waiting for LUCENE-8907 to start
> > > >> >>>>> > building the first release candidate.
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Let me know if there is any other blocker before we can start
> > > >> >>>>> > the release process.
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > It seems I do not have the permissions to create the Jenkins
> > > >> >>>>> > jobs for this branch, maybe Steve can help here?
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Thanks,
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Ignacio
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 4:51 AM David Smiley
> > > >> >>>>> > <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > BTW for 8.2.0 I updated Solr's CHANGES.txt to split out issues
> > > >> >>>>> > that seemed to be Improvements that were not really New
> > > >> >>>>> > Features.
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > ~ David Smiley
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:38 AM Ignacio Vera
> > > >> >>>>> > <iver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Thanks Tomoko for taking care of that.
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:03 PM Đạt Cao Mạnh
> > > >> >>>>> > <caomanhdat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Hi Ignacio,
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > 8.1.2 bugfix release will cancelled. You can go ahead with 8.2
> > > >> >>>>> > release.
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Thanks!
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 20:38, Tomoko Uchida
> > > >> >>>>> > <tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Hi,
> > > >> >>>>> > I opened a blocker issue a while ago for release 8.2:
> > > >> >>>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8907
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Sorry about that, I noticed the backwards incompatibility we
> > > >> >>>>> > have to
> > > >> >>>>> > deal with today. If there are no objections, I will revert the
> > > >> >>>>> > all
> > > >> >>>>> > related commits from the branch_8x and 8_2 in a few days.
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Thanks,
> > > >> >>>>> > Tomoko
> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > 2019年7月10日(水) 22:02 Ignacio Vera <iver...@gmail.com>:
> > > >> >>>>> > >
> > > >> >>>>> > > Hi,
> > > >> >>>>> > >
> > > >> >>>>> > > All the issues listed above has been already committed and I
> > > >> >>>>> > > see no blockers for release 8.2. I will cut the branch
> > > >> >>>>> > > tomorrow around 10am CEST and I will wait for the decision
> > > >> >>>>> > > on the bug release 8.1.2 to schedule the build of the first
> > > >> >>>>> > > release candidate. Please let us know if this is troublesome
> > > >> >>>>> > > for you.
> > > >> >>>>> > >
> > > >> >>>>> > > Thanks,
> > > >> >>>>> > >
> > > >> >>>>> > > Ignacio
> > > >> >>>>> > >
> > > >> >>>>> > >
> > > >> >>>>> > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Joel Bernstein
> > > >> >>>>> > > <joels...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> > >>
> > > >> >>>>> > >> I've got one issue that I'd like to get in
> > > >> >>>>> > >> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-13589), which I
> > > >> >>>>> > >> should have wrapped up in a day or two. +1 for around July
> > > >> >>>>> > >> 10th.
> > > >> >>>>> > >>
> > > >> >>>>> > >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:14 PM Nicholas Knize
> > > >> >>>>> > >> <nkn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> +1 for starting the 8.2 release process. I think it would
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> be good to get the LUCENE-8632 feature into 8.2 along with
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> the BKD improvements and changes in LUCENE-8888 and
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> LUCENE-8896
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> Geospatial Software Guy | Elasticsearch
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> Apache Lucene PMC Member and Committer
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> nkn...@apache.org
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 9:34 AM Ignacio Vera
> > > >> >>>>> > >>> <iver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>>
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> Hi all,
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>>
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> 8.1 has been released on May 16th and we have new
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> features, enhancements and fixes that are not released
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> yet so I'd like to start thinking in releasing
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> Lucene/Solr 8.2.0.
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>>
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> I can create the 8.2 branch in two weeks time (around
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> July 10th) and build the first RC by the end of that week
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> if that works for everyone. Please let me know if there
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> are bug fixes that needs to be fixed in 8.2 and might not
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> be ready by then.
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>>
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> Cheers,
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>>
> > > >> >>>>> > >>>> Ignacio
> > > >> >>>>> >
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> > > >> >>>>> >
> > > >> >>>>> > Cao Mạnh Đạt
> > > >> >>>>> >
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