Ah ok thanks for clarifying Nhat. In light of this, doing an 8.10.1
makes sense to me.

Cheers,
Tim

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:57 PM Nhat Nguyen
<nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> Thank you for discussing this.
>
> There were two bugs during the release of 8.10.0. I considered the first bug 
> wasn't a blocker to respin 8.10.0 RC1 and it made into 8.10.0 RC2. However, 
> Mayya discovered that the second bug had a severe impact on search after 
> requests with sort, and we didn't fully understand its severity until 8.10.0 
> was out.
> Although the bug has been in the previous versions, I am +1 to release 8.10.1 
>  to reduce the impact.
>
> Best Regards,
> Nhat
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:36 PM Timothy Potter <thelabd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Mike on this one as well. In addition, I'm surprised
>> nobody asked to halt the RC1 and make RC2 with Nhat's fix while I was
>> doing 8.10. Nhat made it sound like it was not a big deal at the time,
>> but now there's some urgency in releasing it?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mike Drob <md...@mdrob.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > It feels weird to say that I’m against releases, but generally I feel like 
>> > bug fix releases should be scoped either for a regression discovered in 
>> > that release or for rapid security fixes. Otherwise, what’s the harm in 
>> > waiting for the next release train?
>> >
>> > Obviously any committee is free to create a release candidate on any 
>> > commit, and if there are three PMC members in support then a release can 
>> > happen, but I don’t want to be putting pressure on ourselves where we are 
>> > constantly in the middle of a release cycle.
>> >
>> > Or waiting a month and doing 8.11 seems fine too?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 8:17 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Mike, it's unclear to me if you are suggesting waiting before doing a 
>> >> 8.10.1 release? On my end I'm good with doing a 8.10.1 release now, we 
>> >> could still do a 8.10.2 release later in case we find new bugs?
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 10:41 PM Mayya Sharipova 
>> >> <mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> No, the bug is not new and was present in the previous versions as well, 
>> >>> but was discovered quite recently.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 3:54 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Is the bug new in 8.10? If it affects older versions as well then I 
>> >>>> feel like 8.10.1 might be less urgent.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 2:14 PM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> +1 to a 8.10.1 patch release
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 2:03 AM Mayya Sharipova 
>> >>>>> <mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks for the update, Robert.  Would be nice to have these  bug 
>> >>>>>> fixes as well.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:56 PM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> FYI Looks like there are already six items currently listed under
>> >>>>>>> "Bugfixes" for 8.11.0, so those could be candidates for the patch
>> >>>>>>> release.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Bug Fixes
>> >>>>>>> ---------------------
>> >>>>>>> * LUCENE-10110: MultiCollector now handles single leaf collector that
>> >>>>>>> wants to skip low-scoring hits
>> >>>>>>> but the combined score mode doesn't allow it. (Jim Ferenczi)
>> >>>>>>> * LUCENE-10111: Missing calculating the bytes used of 
>> >>>>>>> DocsWithFieldSet
>> >>>>>>> in NormValuesWriter.
>> >>>>>>> (Lu Xugang)
>> >>>>>>> * LUCENE-10116: Missing calculating the bytes used of 
>> >>>>>>> DocsWithFieldSet
>> >>>>>>> and currentValues in SortedSetDocValuesWriter.
>> >>>>>>> (Lu Xugang)
>> >>>>>>> * LUCENE-10070 Skip deleted docs when accumulating facet counts for
>> >>>>>>> all docs. (Ankur Goel, Greg Miller)
>> >>>>>>> * LUCENE-10126: Sort optimization with a chunked bulk scorer
>> >>>>>>> can wrongly skip documents (Nhat Nguyen, Mayya Sharipova)
>> >>>>>>> * LUCENE-10134: ConcurrentSortedSetDocValuesFacetCounts shouldn't
>> >>>>>>> share liveDocs Bits across threads.
>> >>>>>>> (Ankur Goel)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:46 PM Mayya Sharipova <ma...@apache.org> 
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > Hello everyone!
>> >>>>>>> > Thank you, Timothy, for the recent 8.10 release.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > I wonder if we are ok to do a 8.10.1 patch release and do it 
>> >>>>>>> > fairly soon? this week?
>> >>>>>>> > Nhat fixed a bad bug where "sort with after" on a numeric field 
>> >>>>>>> > can incorrectly miss documents. This bug only manifests when sort 
>> >>>>>>> > optimization on numeric fields is explicitly enabled.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > Given that we are not sure when the next minor release will be, it 
>> >>>>>>> > would be useful to have a patch release.  If nobody is opposed to 
>> >>>>>>> > it,  I can volunteer to be the Release Manager.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > Thanks.
>> >>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
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>> >>
>> >>
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