Your issue has not been ignored but the problem is that the version of the blocker has not been added so it doesn't appear in a search for blockers in Lucene 9 :(
Do we need to discuss this again? I thought we discussed and agreed on increasing our backwards compatibility. My personal opinion is that it is a natural step for mature software that it is increasingly used in production environments. Regarding your concerns in the subject, there is a healthy discussion in the issue and there are sound proposals to ease the pain and they can be implemented any time, do you think it is still a blocker? On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker > issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate, > rather than simply ignored. > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168 > > With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards > compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are > discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested > to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests > taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will > take for branch_9_9! > > When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of > it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to > make it work...crickets. > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains. > > > > I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem. > > > > The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like > > this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back > > compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported. > > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the > past. I'll start a separate thread. > > > > > > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> a écrit > : > > >> > > >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is > dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it? > > >> > > >> Uwe > > >> > > >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand < > jpou...@gmail.com>: > > >>> > > >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We > typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch > release? > > >>> > > >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> a > écrit : > > >>>> > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> > > >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it > succeeded: > > >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641] > > >>>> > > >>>> See here for log: > https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console > > >>>> > > >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit > with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs > first. > > >>>> > > >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry > for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people > still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now > are 8.11.x ones, right? > > >>>> > > >>>> Uwe > > >>>> > > >>>> ----- > > >>>> Uwe Schindler > > >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen > > >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de > > >>>> eMail: u...@thetaphi.de > > >>>> > > >>>> > -----Original Message----- > > >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> > > >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM > > >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org> > > >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from: > > >>>> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev- > > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075 > > >>>> > > > >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command: > > >>>> > > > >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \ > > >>>> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev- > > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075 > > >>>> > > > >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > [ ] +1 approve > > >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion > > >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Here is my +1 > > >>>> > > > >>>> > -- > > >>>> > Adrien > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > >>>> > > >> -- > > >> Uwe Schindler > > >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen > > >> https://www.thetaphi.de > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
