Hi

I believe Solr(Cloud) is doing some internal routing of update-requests to make sure documents are stored in the correct core/shard decided by Solrs internal routing algoritm (I believe it basically finds out who is the leader-shard for a given document, using shared information in ZK, info about the collection and hash(document.id)). All nice and cool.

I also believe realtime-gets are not forwarded internally in Solr through this routing algorithm, and that it therefore is "impossible" to do realtime-gets from a client, because you dont know which core/shard to contact directly, again because you dont know the routing alogrithm. If Im wrong, it would be very helpfull with a few directions on how to do realtime-gets from a client to a Solr servers system containing many shards and collection. If Im right, I think it would be very nice if the the routing algorithm was somehow exposed to the client (in code reachable from SolrJ) so that you can get to do realtime-gets from a SolrJ-based client - if it should be done automatically for you of if the client using SolrJ explicitly needs to call some code to get info about the core to contact, is not so important for now.

Such a solution would also make it possible to get rid of another performance related "problem", that most update-requests has to be transported among JVMs twice to reach their destination. First from client to some "random" Solr server, and then from this Solr server to the Solr server holding the core involved in the update. If routing information was available for the client it could make sure to route its updates directly to the core (the one currently playing the role as leader-shard for the shard to which the routing algorithm maps the document) involved in the update.

ElasticSearch has a solution to this problem by the usage of "Node Client" (instead of just "Transport Client"), where a node client is basically a real node in the system that just doesnt store document, but which have all the logic and shared information like e.g. routing algorithm available - http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/client.html. It certainly doesnt have to be like that with Solr clients, but it would be nice if somehow routing logic where available to the SolrJ so that it can send its updates (and realtime-gets) directly to the correct destination.

Hope to get some comments on this issue.

Regards, Per Steffensen

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