I'll take are of SOLR-4112 this morning, probably create another JIRA to
track unit tests. There aren't any today and I have evidence from the field
that it makes DIH usable so....

Erick


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Jack Krupansky <[email protected]>wrote:

> The window of Monday through Wednesday sounds like a great target. Nothing
> says that the first RC has to be final. If whoever is doing the branch
> wants to do it on Monday rather than Tuesday, fine. If one or more of these
> nasty "blockers" gets fixed on Tuesday, we should still be open to a
> re-spin to put quality over a mere day or two of delay. But draw a hard
> line on Wednesday.
>
> -- Jack Krupansky
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Miller
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:36 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: 4.1 release
>
>
> Saying tomorrow without any date that gives anyone any time to do anything
> is out of nowhere to me. People in Europe and east of that will wake up and
> find out, oh today. While pressure has been building towards a release, no
> one has proposed a date for a cutoff. I think that is always only fair. I
> think that if you were desperate to cut off to blockers tomorrow, you
> should have called for that last week.
>
> Robert Muir's short term releases are not threatened by allowing people to
> plan and execute a release together. You can take that too far and do
> damage from the opposite direction. Giving people time to tie things up
> with a real deadline is only fair. We all know a nebulous deadline is not
> conducive to finishing up work.
>
> I think all releases should have a known date that we agree on that gives
> developers some time to finish what they are working on or what they
> believe is important for the release. At a minimum there should be a few
> days for this. A weekend involved only seems fair. This doesn't have to be
> a long time, but it should not require we file blockers and just seems like
> a friendly way to develop together.
>
> Monday is fine by me if others buy into it.
>
> Otherwise, we have taken 4 or 5 months for 4.1. Let's not drag it out
> another month. But let's not do the reverse and release it tonight. The
> sensible approach always seems like we should plan out some target dates on
> the list - dates that actually give devs a chance to respond to - and then
> follow through on those dates.
>
> - Mark
>
> On Jan 10, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Steve Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Okay - I can see your logic, Mark, but this is not even close to out of
>> nowhere.  You yourself have been vocal about making a 4.1 release for a
>> couple weeks now.
>>
>> I agree with Robert Muir that we should be promoting short turnaround
>> releases.  If it doesn't make this release, it'll make the next one, which
>> will come out in a relatively short span of time.  In this model, Blocker
>> issues are the drivers, not "Fix Version".    If people want stuff in the
>> release, they should mark their issue as Blocker.
>>
>> How about a compromise - next Monday we branch and only allow Blockers to
>> block the release?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Mark Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  -1 from me - I don't like not giving people a target date to clean
>>> things up by. No one has given a proposed date to try and tie things up by
>>> - just calling 'hike is tomorrow' out of nowhere doesn't seem right to me.
>>>
>>> We have a lot of people working on this over a lot of timezones. I think
>>> we should do the right thing and give everyone at least a few days and a
>>> weekend to finish getting their issues into 4.1.
>>>
>>> - Mark
>>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Steve Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I'd like to start sooner than next Tuesday.
>>>>
>>>> I propose to make the branch tomorrow, and only allow Blocker issues to
>>>> hold up the release after that.
>>>>
>>>> A release candidate should then be possible by the middle of next week.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Mark Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Steve Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'd like to release soon.  What else blocks this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should toss out a short term date (next tuesday?) for
>>>>> anyone to get in what they need for 4.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then just consider blockers after branching?
>>>>>
>>>>> Then release?
>>>>>
>>>>> Objections, better ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should give a bit of time for people to finish up what's in
>>>>> flight or fix any blockers. Then we should heighten testing and allow for
>>>>> any new blockers, and then kick it out. If we need to do a 4.2 shortly
>>>>> after, so be it.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Mark
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