Supporting both just compounds our problems and doesn't go very far towards 
solving any.

The only place the webapp will end up still making sense after a bit of time is 
in non solrcloud mode. The improvements it will bring will make it a dumb 
choice if you use SolrCloud. We already have enough baggage holding up 
SolrCloud because of supporting the std mode - adding to the list only makes my 
life even harder.

We need to reduce the number of configurations we ship, not multiply them. I 
believe *very* strongly. We must start to focus the beam, there is already to 
much diffraction.

- Mark

On May 4, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Grant Ingersoll <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why not just support both?  It really isn't all that hard.  While I agree w/ 
> Robert and Mark that it's time to consider alternatives, I also don't think 
> it is all that hard to support both from a user's perspective.  We could have 
> a Netty(or other) version and a WAR version and I don't think it is that big 
> of a deal to maintain.  After all, we already have the component pieces as 
> JARs, just bundle them up differently for Netty, etc.
> 
> -Grant
> 
> 
> On May 3, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> 
>> But I'm really curious, what is the problem with Solr inside a
>> container?  Which problem is this solving?  I feel like I missed some
>> important thread.... which is highly possible. :)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Otis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Robert Muir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> # rm -rf tomcat
>>> # gzip -dc solr.tgz | tar -xvf -
>>> # cd solr/example
>>> # java -jar start.jar
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Steve Molloy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So, if ever this passes, what would be the upgrade path for all the
>>>> deployments using Solr as a webapp inside tomcat or other container?
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Michael McCandless [[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: May 3, 2013 12:09 PM
>>>> To: Lucene/Solr dev
>>>> Subject: Re: VOTE: solr no longer webapp
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Robert Muir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I think solr should no longer be a war file but a search app. I don't
>>>>> care
>>>>> how it accomplishes this: jetty, netty, its all up to us.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let me know your ideas: I think its a necessary step to move solr
>>>>> forwards.
>>>> 
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>> Mike McCandless
>>>> 
>>>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>>>> 
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