I think there should be some sort of matrix or vectors or something related to linear algebra in the logo, maybe some math sign or some diagram of cells/arrows, with strict lines/sharp corners/etc. I'm not against cool abstract symbols but maybe we can mix them with more "down to earth" ideas/values of Mahout and link to linear algebra as well. For example, from all the candidates I liked the following a bit more than others, but it still doesn't feel right: https://images-platform.99static.com/6rNmpsFUUSTG00YPR845lALA2NI=/filters:quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84070/attachment_84070656
-----Original Message----- From: Trevor Grant [mailto:trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:28 PM To: u...@mahout.apache.org Cc: Mahout Dev List <dev@mahout.apache.org> Subject: Re: New logo It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't like the ones in front of me... I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming back to me. The Enso. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D Things I like about it: (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol prior is that someone I met had a tattoo of it). It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment. ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from Hebrew- which may be something akin to essence or truth. It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme. It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle which symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator, expressive like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL, but I'm spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive). "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the character of its creator and the context of its creation in a brief, contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection- which a little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can create a perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points and how could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet such things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be striving for. This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to solving problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in that we can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and serve as our blueprint. Finally, I like that it is simple. Things I don't like about it: Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a very specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me. Other thoughts: Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout color palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors. This could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that does to our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If that is the case is there any reason we must have a single Enso?) So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more grown up than my runner up favorites (honey badger, blueman riding bomb waving cowboy hat, blueman riding lighting bolt into a squirrel covered in water, etc). Again, only know what wiki has told me, so if anyone is more familiar with this symbol (like was it used as a logo by some horrible dictator which carried out terrible attrocities?) or just general comments. tg Trevor Grant Data Scientist https://github.com/rawkintrevo http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo http://trevorgrant.org *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things." -Virgil* On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals > showed any spark (to me). > > I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative feedback. > But there it is. > > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com> wrote: > > > Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome > > input) or would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now. > > > > > > On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com> > wrote: > > > > > Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers are not > > > worth paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill > > > (donations > > > appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will lead to > > > something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing on the > > > web > > site > > > or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely > > > different, > > and > > > the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed payout. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman < > > andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > I thought we were just voting on continuing this process :) > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant < > trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Also Pat, thank you for organizing. > > >> > > >> +0 > > >> > > >> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them all > > >> enough to > > -1 > > >> > > >> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python, Numpy > > >> (a > > > Python > > >> Library), or IBM's DSX. However, I realize a big part of that is > > >> the colors chosen. > > >> > > >> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of none of > > >> the > > > above). > > >> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them adjust > > >> hues / colors. > > >> > > >> Trevor Grant > > >> Data Scientist > > >> https://github.com/rawkintrevo > > >> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo > > >> http://trevorgrant.org > > >> > > >> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things." > -Virgil* > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman < > > >> andrew.mussel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat! > > >>> > > >>> My personal favorite is #38 > > >>> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_ > > >> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters: > > >>> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/ > > > attachment_84017937 > > >>> > > >>> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds me of diagrams > > showing > > >>> vector multiplication. > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel > > >>> <p...@occamsmachete.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone hates all > > >>>> these and doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers > > >>>> for 3 more days > > >> (the > > >>>> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding (your are a > > >>>> PMC > > >>> member) > > >>>> > > >>>> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything on the polls below. > > >>>> > > >>>> In this case you have 24 hours to vote > > >>>> > > >>>> Here’s my +1 to continue refining. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel > > >>>> <p...@occamsmachete.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be unique. > > >>>> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed > > >>>> > > >>>> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain the best afaict. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel > > >>>> <p...@occamsmachete.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif > > >>>> > > >>>> We asked for something “mathy” and asked for no elephant and rider. > We > > >>>> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments about what > > >>>> you > > >> like > > >>> or > > >>>> would like to change. > > >>>> > > >>>> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you hate them all, > > >>>> make > that > > >>>> known too. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. 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