Hello Louis, Ian,
I started this thread to get some basic points among OOo marketing
discussed - without personal affronts and defamation.
Even if this last goal is not easily to reach - on both sides of the
line there have been lots of injuries, I assume - the quality of
this discussion has reached a higher level than in some of the
previous postings.
But the thread has left it's subject (at least partially) and even
if I think, that it is necessary to find a solution to your dispute
it is useless to repeat well known positions if there is no interest
in coming together to some degree.
I don't know if the problems behind your dispute can be solved at
all. If you can't agree to some basics, there is no reason to
discuss any longer - and to restart it every now and then, showing
all the world, that OOo marketing is not able to work straightforward.
In my eyes some of those basics are:
- The OpenOffice.org community consists of many members with
different opinions that will have to be bundled into a central
direction.
- This direction may change slightly, if the majority of the
community wants it to change. It has not to be changed like a break,
because this would have a huge impact as well on the inner as on the
outer presentation of OpenOffice.org.
- Any changes will have to comply with the current circumstances of
OpenOffice.org development including Sun's position as main sponsor
and developer pool and CollabNet hosting the homepage.
-Any endeavor to modify these circumstances will have to take into
account all of it's possible negative aspects.
Such a discussion has not to take place on a list dedicated to
special purposes like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] If
these themes have to be discussed on an open list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems
to me the most appropriate one - but the opponents are known and the
topic is quite difficult to manage: Why don't try to find a solution
in a smaller group off list?
So I'd assist Louis to stop at least this part of the thread joining
his conclusion about DLS:
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
[...]
Oh, btw, the point of the DLS: I don't think it the best venue for
expending our rather scarce monetary resources. If you go, and represent
OOo, then I'd trust you'd do just that. If you want to help organise
the San Diegans and anyone else who wishes to pay his or her way for
this, great.
And I try to copy it to a more general (perhaps standard?) procedure:
- If a MarCon decides to assist a fair he/she is trusted to do so
just representing OpenOffice.org whatever different position he/she
holds besides OOo.
- He/she may announce the fair here on the list and ask for others
willing to join.
- Monetary contributions can be asked for here as well - and if the
project thinks this fair is worth to be supported financially, a
request could be sent to the CC.
(If a project member decides to support it on his/her own I don't
see any reason why this should be wrong).
I hope these conclusions can be supported by a majority of the
project and could help to avoid annoying and frustrating reactions
in future discussions.
But this will not take place if we don't find an end to the
discussions this thread (and any other thread where the affected
people post) drifted off to - and the assumptions and affronts that
can be read between the lines...
Best regards
Bernhard
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
