Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
* As Jean just said, only a very few people can modify the MP site.
Have people asked or volunteered?
As I said in an earlier note, I volunteered on at least 2
occasions and was told "no".
Frankly, I am quite tired of your endless complaining. From my
perspective you complain and whine simply because you sometimes
do not get your way.
Steven Pauwels is saying many of the same things that Daniel (and
others, including Ian Lynch and me) have been saying for 18
months or more, and you seem to be listening, even if not
agreeing. One can easily get the impression that if Daniel says
something, you consider it unacceptable "complaining" but if
someone else says it, the topic is worth considering.
Louis, you can no longer pretend that Daniel's complaints are
unfounded; Steven was here for less than a day when he began
pointing out some of the problems that have been glaringly
obvious to Daniel and me and many others for a long, long time.
I have seen quite a few willing and enthusiastic volunteers depart
the project. Some were very skilled and eager to do a project but
they just got tired of micromanagement and not seeing their efforts
bear fruit.
Really? Do you have evidence of this?
I can't speak for anyone else except myself. I have not gone
away, but I have been thoroughly put off helping anywhere except
at Docs. Anywhere I've been except for Docs, I'm confronted with
either micromanagement, being ignored when I ask for information,
not being recognised for work done, and being told I'm a
troublemaker when I say such things in public. And in one case
(in private) being told to go away and stop making trouble.
If you do not like the OpenOffice.org project Daniel, why do you stay
here? Why tire us all with your dislikes? We do not enjoy it. Perhaps
only you do. You have your new project, the Fellowship: attend to that.
There is a big difference between "not liking" the OOo project
and not liking some aspects of the way it is run. I can't speak
for Daniel, but I will say why I stay even though I am also very
critical of many things: it's because I think OOo is important
and valuable and I want to see it succeed and spread. I think
there are many things that can be done to vastly improve the way
the project is run, and the way the product is marketed. That is
why I stay: for the sake of the project and the product.
--Jean
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