Hi Andy and Nandana, it was never our intention to have important discussions outside the official channels. We are fully aware that the mailing list and Jira are the place for important documentation and communication.
My proposal was merely to open up the internal meetings we have anyways to a broader community using modern communication tools. I have seen this e.g. very efficiently at Wikimedia. Our intention was actually to add the tasks of the scrum meetings to Jira, like I already did today. The purpose of these meetings is to push things forward now that most developers have been out of the topic for 2 months, so we can start the code import beginning of February, nothing more. The two months proposal writing are a bit annoying but if all goes well this might result in important major contributions to Stanbol and Marmotta. Let's see. Now, finally, programming again, already looking forward! Greetings, Sebastian Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013 schrieb Andy Seaborne : > On 16/01/13 17:20, Sergio Fernández wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 16/01/13 18:03, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote: >> >>> IMHO, in Apache email and irc are considered as preferred mediums of >>> communications. The main reason for that is the developer and user >>> community are scattered a lot geographically and as they are on volunteer >>> based might not be able to commit to fixed timing like this. However, >>> I see >>> that for people in Salzburg Research this might be the most efficient way >>> to move forward. However, in the long run when the community grows with >>> developers and users outside Salzburg Research, this won't be a >>> sustainable >>> way to move forward. >>> >> >> We started with these sprints for the following two weeks in order to >> achieve the release of LMF 2.4 before proceeding with the importation >> into the ASF infrastructure. The idea is to push to get such important >> milestone asap. >> >> One suggestion would be to drop an email to the list of anything >>> important >>> mentioned in the meeting (I don't thing there is need to send a daily >>> update to the list each day as progress of the issues will be tracked in >>> JIRA). It is important that all the discussions regarding the development >>> happens in the mailing list as much as possible so that they are archived >>> and available for any user / developer later on. It also gives the chance >>> to anyone interested to jump in and express their opinion. >>> >> >> Anyway, any important decision or discussion in such daily meetings will >> be shared using the common communication tools (mainly mailing list or >> jira), right, that was always in our minds. >> > > I just want to agree strongly with Nandana. > > This can be a significant change in culture and not always an easy one but > in order to attract new people it is very important. > > Think of it as the only place "decisions" happen is email or JIRA. Even > irc is a bit suspect as it is not timezone independent. Obviously > discussions happen, nothing against that, and they inform the decision > making in the usual places. > > Andy > > >> Thanks for your comments. >> >> Cheers, >> >> >
