Members present: westei, wastl, tkurz, jfrank, wikier ---------------- Meeting summary: ----------------
1. Preface 2. memento a. tkurz will send a report to sesame about the problems with sparql result writer and rdf 1.1 (tkurz, 2) 3. reasoner 4. aob a. document the jira workflow in the wiki (wastl, 4) b. http://wiki.apache.org/marmotta/IssueWorkflow (jfrank, 4) c. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/marmotta/logo/ (wastl, 4) d. ask infra about the expected date to solve INFRA-5624 (wikier, 4) -------- Actions: -------- - tkurz will send a report to sesame about the problems with sparql result writer and rdf 1.1 (tkurz, 09:11:35) - document the jira workflow in the wiki (wastl, 09:32:40) - ask infra about the expected date to solve INFRA-5624 (wikier, 09:39:17) IRC log follows: # 1. Preface # 09:05:12 [wikier]: topics? 09:05:42 [tkurz]: memento 09:05:51 [wastl]: reasoning (short progress report) 09:06:50 [tkurz]: any other topic? 09:07:05 [wikier]: no from my side 09:07:20 [wastl]: Jakob? # 2. memento # 09:07:27 [jfrank]: none 09:07:50 [tkurz]: just read the updated version of the menento protocol 09:07:59 [tkurz]: today I will start implementing 09:08:14 [tkurz]: If the bugs allow it 09:08:27 [wastl]: there are no bugs :) 09:08:35 [tkurz]: yes there are ;) 09:08:42 [jfrank]: i think i heard that before... 09:08:52 [wikier]: xD 09:09:05 [wikier]: tkurz: sorry for the issue yesterday 09:09:07 [tkurz]: np 09:09:20 [wikier]: finally I reverted the huge commit with the license 09:09:42 [tkurz]: just fixed some other stuff yesterday regarding skosjs, user webservice, sparql result writer, etc 09:09:57 [tkurz]: so that's it from my side 09:10:27 [jfrank]: did you file an issue to seasame about the result writer? 09:10:50 [jfrank]: s/sea/se 09:11:05 [tkurz]: not yet. I will do that 09:11:35 [tkurz]: #action tkurz will send a report to sesame about the problems with sparql result writer and rdf 1.1 09:11:42 [wastl]: +1 09:11:57 [jfrank]: +1 09:11:57 [wikier]: +1 09:12:22 [wastl]: maybe you should mention that this is not only a Sesame issue 09:12:42 [wastl]: it is an inconsistency between the SPARQL spec and the RDF 1.1 spec 09:13:07 [tkurz]: okay. I will check this 09:13:42 [wikier]: a sync issue between boths specs, right? 09:13:50 [wastl]: yes, see http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/PR-sparql11-results-json-20121108/#select-results 09:13:57 [wastl]: section 3.2.2 09:14:27 [wastl]: and the SPARQL XML result format is still the same as for SPARQL 1.0 09:15:07 [wastl]: it is not exactly an inconsistency, just underspecified 09:15:20 [wikier]: aja 09:15:20 [wastl]: the case with datatype and language is missing in the spec 09:16:19 [wastl]: ok, anything more regarding this topic? 09:16:59 [tkurz]: no 09:17:05 [wastl]: ok # 3. reasoner # 09:17:13 [wastl]: quick progress report 09:17:35 [wastl]: - persistence layer is working (i.e. storing/loading programs, rules, justifications, ...) 09:18:04 [wastl]: - this morning I will work on translation from rule query patterns to SQL (partly working already) 09:18:12 [wastl]: - this afternoon I will do the reasoning SAIL 09:18:22 [wastl]: - tomorrow integration back into LMF 09:18:49 [wikier]: cool 09:19:04 [wastl]: please do not do big changes that affect also the triple store, because I am working in a separate branch and this would be merge hell 09:19:27 [wastl]: so I have a lock on the kiwi/ components for now :) 09:20:29 [wastl]: that's it from my side, so I hope we can have the system complete again by tomorrow evening and prepare the Lucy demo 09:20:57 [tkurz]: okay. next topic 09:21:12 [tkurz]: ? 09:21:20 [wastl]: none for me 09:21:27 [wikier]: nothing specific... # 4. aob # 09:21:35 [wikier]: aob? 09:21:35 [wikier]: ah, yes, wiki 09:21:35 [wastl]: short note: 09:21:37 [wikier]: see MARMOTTA-3 09:21:42 [wikier]: MARMOTTA-3 09:21:57 [wikier]: I migrated some content yesterday to the apache wiki 09:22:12 [jfrank]: so this issue can be closed? 09:22:12 [wastl]: great 09:22:20 [wikier]: but I'd prefer to wait until the code importation the week on 18th 09:22:42 [wikier]: who has access to the wii? 09:22:50 [wikier]: I know that wastl and jfrank 09:22:50 [wikier]: tkurz? 09:23:00 [wastl]: I have 09:23:34 [tkurz]: I think i have. Let's try 09:23:57 [tkurz]: nope 09:23:59 [wikier]: I just need to know your username to add karma to you 09:24:34 [wikier]: tkurz: http://wiki.apache.org/marmotta/FrontPage?action=newaccount 09:24:43 [wastl]: did you copy the jira workflow already from Sling? :) 09:25:21 [tkurz]: okay. my account name is tkurz 09:25:28 [wikier]: we'd just need to add a couple of additional satates 09:25:35 [wikier]: states 09:25:35 [wikier]: do we want? 09:25:50 [wastl]: I think they are already default 09:26:06 [wastl]: no need to add them 09:26:42 [wastl]: ok, no need to hurry 09:26:50 [wastl]: I'd briefly like to mentioin 09:26:51 [jfrank]: really? test/doc required is default? 09:26:58 [wastl]: yes 09:26:59 [wikier]: the also have "Documentation Required" and "Testcase Required" 09:27:05 [wikier]: http://sling.apache.org/site/issue-tracker.html#IssueTracker-IssueStates 09:27:23 [wikier]: tkurz, westei: added karma at the wiki 09:27:35 [tkurz]: thx 09:27:42 [westei]: thx 09:28:04 [wastl]: wikier: these states are in the Apache default, AFAIK 09:28:49 [wikier]: this is what we have now 09:28:50 [wikier]: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/608222/tmp/jira-workflow.png 09:29:27 [wikier]: the default jira workflow 09:29:30 [wastl]: ok 09:29:42 [wastl]: so no need to hurry, keep it for the future 09:30:04 [wikier]: with my user I cannot change it 09:30:07 [wikier]: sure 09:30:11 [wikier]: ok 09:30:18 [jfrank]: we should document our agreement on closing/resolving issues 09:30:32 [wikier]: +1 09:30:34 [wastl]: yes 09:31:02 [wikier]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MARMOTTA#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aissues-panel 09:31:02 [wastl]: it is in the mail archives already, but should move into the wiki 09:31:32 [tkurz]: westei made a good recommendation for the workflow in the mailing list 09:31:40 [wastl]: ok, can we close this topic? I have another one and we already discussed it on the list 09:32:02 [wikier]: I've just closed the single two resolved issues that were not code 09:32:24 [tkurz]: yes. but we should document the workflow in the wiki asap 09:32:32 [wikier]: which is what jfrank basically points 09:32:40 [wastl]: #action document the jira workflow in the wiki 09:32:54 [jfrank]: #link http://wiki.apache.org/marmotta/IssueWorkflow 09:33:02 [wastl]: maybe we can create an issue for it 09:33:03 [wastl]: ok 09:33:09 [wastl]: so done :) 09:33:24 [jfrank]: no content yet... 09:33:47 [wastl]: copy from Sling for now, and we add the additional states later 09:34:34 [wastl]: now let me finally talk about 09:34:39 [wastl]: MARMOTTA-5 09:34:47 [wastl]: the logo 09:35:03 [wastl]: I have checked in all logo files (bitmaps and vector sources) 09:35:17 [wastl]: to the repository for the marmotta website 09:35:34 [wastl]: you can find everything here: 09:35:39 [wastl]: #link https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/marmotta/logo/ 09:36:24 [wastl]: includes icons (ICO and PNG format), the logo itself, and a powered-by version of the logo 09:36:54 [tkurz]: nice. as soon we have a website we should offer a page with all the logos 09:37:09 [wastl]: a propos: website :) 09:37:24 [wastl]: should we ask again at infra? 09:37:39 [wastl]: they said "not before 1st February", but today is already 6th 09:37:39 [wikier]: still awaiting for INFRA-5624 09:37:54 [wikier]: I pointed it in the IPMC report 09:38:17 [wikier]: I'm not sure how difficult is to setup a new cms instance... but, you know, not so long 09:38:39 [wastl]: of course they have other things to do as well, but the website is very important 09:38:48 [wikier]: I'll try to ask at #asfinfra again 09:38:50 [wastl]: maybe I add a comment to the issue 09:39:17 [wikier]: #action ask infra about the expected date to solve INFRA-5624 09:40:32 [tkurz]: perfect. aob? 09:40:39 [tkurz]: 40 min .... 09:41:09 [jfrank]: another jira... 09:41:25 [jfrank]: we have several new feature issues scheduled for v2.6... 09:42:17 [wastl]: which ones? 09:42:24 [jfrank]: new features should go to version 3.1 09:43:11 [wastl]: there are only two 09:43:11 [jfrank]: MARMOTTA-60 09:43:17 [jfrank]: MARMOTTA-61 09:43:33 [wastl]: I only see 09:43:39 [wastl]: MARMOTTA-18 09:43:47 [wastl]: and MARMOTTA-19 09:44:02 [wastl]: and both are not scheduled for 2.6 09:44:09 [wikier]: mine probably 09:44:26 [wikier]: part of ldp draft implementation 09:44:34 [wikier]: which we could release at 2.6 as experimental 09:44:47 [wastl]: +1 09:44:48 [tkurz]: +1 09:45:09 [wastl]: they are not really new features, they are a part towards Marmotta 09:45:18 [wastl]: which we claim to be a LDP platform implementation 09:46:17 [wikier]: but I see jfrank's point.. maybe I should started all ldp in a separate branch 09:46:32 [wikier]: something to improve when moving to marmotta 09:46:54 [wastl]: well, I think the first implementation needs to be there at 3.0 09:47:17 [jfrank]: why? 09:47:17 [wastl]: so I don't mind having it experimental in 2.6 09:47:26 [wastl]: because we say we are the LDP implementation :) 09:47:32 [wikier]: and, since from 2.6 to 3.0 no new code will go in, we need it as 2.6, right 09:48:26 [wastl]: no new code, but bug fixes and adaptations yes 09:49:33 [wastl]: ok, can we stop the meeting now? 09:49:40 [wikier]: +1 09:49:49 [tkurz]: +1 09:49:50 [jfrank]: to close this topic: plz think twice before adding new issues to 2.6 09:49:57 [jfrank]: @close: +1 09:50:04 [wikier]: ok
