My view is very simple: Let's move all plugins outside the core of
Maven. However, ATM it is not done for the following reason:

- There is no mechanism for a project to tell which plugins it wants to
use (and in what version).

[Of course there would a list of default plugins with default versions
when you download maven so that you don't need to specify the full list
of plugins to use in each project].

Once we have this, I'll be the first to vote a big +1 to have each
plugin as a separate project with its own lifecycle.

-Vincent

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michal Maczka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 June 2003 21:27
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Responsibility - was [RE: Simian Plugin (fully documented and
> ready to use)\
> 
> Just wanted to express my opinion about new plugins.
> 
> I don't think that we should add more plugins to maven, unless they
are
> really "core plugins".
> 
> I think we have quite a lot of dead plugins and many broken plugins,
> 
> I like more the idea of having this plugin elsewhere, so original
plugin
> authors
> can take responsibility.
> 
> Knowing Aslak's skills I have no doubt that Maven team can give him
access
> right
> to CVS repository to let him maintain this plugin but I want to
discuss
> general policy regarding this subject.
> 
> I think Aslak has a lot of experience with such problems from XDoclet
> project.
> 
> Simply any plugin which is based on external libraries is very
sensitive
> to
> any changes in those
> libraries. For example Hibernate, Torque, JBoss plugins will be broken
> once
> there is minor change in
> those project. Keeping all plugin up to date in enormous work.
> 
> From the other hand I feel that Maven should have a catalog of known
> "foreign" plugins
> ( in form both of web site, and machine readable file format (XML ?),
so
> any
> plugin can be downloaded automatically)
> 
> This will not only improve quality of code which is kept in our CVS
> repository, but also
> will increase the number of people which can actively work on plugins
and
> having cvs access rights, so
> also plugin will be better.
> 
> 
> What you think?
> 
> Michal
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vincent Massol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:54 PM
> > To: 'Maven Developers List'
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Simian Plugin (fully documented and ready to use)
> >
> >
> > Hi Aslak,
> >
> > I love the idea of CPD/Simian. However, before we can commit
anything
> > here we would need agreement from redhillconsulting.com that we can
put
> > the simian jar in the Maven remote repository on ibiblio.
> >
> > If we don�t get this agreement, we could still store this plugin in
the
> > SF mavne-plugins project and users would need to download the simian
jar
> > and put it manually in their local repository.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Aslak Helles�y [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 24 June 2003 13:58
> > > To: Maven Developers List
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Simian Plugin (fully documented and ready to use)
> > >
> > > It seems Maven's JIRA still doesn't notify this list, so here I
go...
> > >
> > > Simian
(http://www.redhillconsulting.com.au/products/simian/index.html
> > )
> > > is a great little tool that detects duplicate source code. Very
much
> > > like PMD's CPD (http://pmd.sourceforge.net/cpd.html), but a _lot_
> > faster.
> > >
> > > I have written a Maven report plugin for Simian that I'd like to
> > > contribute to Maven. Have a look at some sample reports:
> > >
> > > http://www.picocontainer.org/simian-report.html
> > > http://www.nanocontainer.org/simian-report.html
> > >
> > > It would be really nice to have the Simian Report included in the
> > > standard reports, as it reveals refactoring candidates and is
> > something
> > > every sound project should have!
> > >
> > > It's all in JIRA:
> > > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ViewIssue.jspa?key=MAVEN-516
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Aslak
> > >
> > >
> > >
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