Isn't it generally understood that releases are by majority vote? Thus,
clarification seems unnecessary. -1 only means veto under consensus voting,
not majority voting. Right?

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015, 07:45 Stephen Connolly <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Karl,
>
> You are the release manager for this vote so you get to decide what to do.
> My point was that the -1 cannot stop a release, if the release manager gets
> 3x+1(binding) then they can release irrespective of the number of -1's...
> though I suspect that the PMC would frown on a release manager who
> repeatedly cut releases where there was a majority of -1's... and if the
> PMC didn't frown appropriately then the board might frown on the PMC ;-)
>
> But none the less, on release votes if you are casting a -1 it is better to
> either cast a -0.999999 or advertise the fact that it is not a veto, e.g.
> -1 (non-veto) so that the rest of the wider community is aware that this is
> not a veto on the release rather a problem with the release that the
> release manager needs to decide the severity of.
>
> On 27 April 2015 at 20:23, Karl Heinz Marbaise <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > I'm fully aware that no vetos allowed apart from that the suggestions
> made
> > by Michael are better than my implementation and i have decided to drop
> the
> > release VOTE anyway....cause a much better implementation does exists...
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Karl Heinz Marbaise
> > On 4/27/15 9:14 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> >
> >> Remember there are no vetos allowed on release votes
> >>
> >> On Monday, 27 April 2015, Michael Osipov <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Am 2015-04-25 um 17:05 schrieb Karl Heinz Marbaise:
> >>>
> >>>  Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> We solved 9 issues:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12317926&version=12331574
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Staging repo:
> >>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1184
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1184/org/apache/maven/skins/maven-fluido-skin/1.4/maven-fluido-skin-1.4-source-release.zip
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Source release checksum(s):
> >>>> maven-fluido-skin-1.4-source-release.zip sha1:
> >>>> f4575cc56f2296b35e4404fb6f64e41eccfb1515
> >>>>
> >>>> Staging site:
> >>>> http://maven.apache.org/skins-archives/maven-fluido-skin-LATEST/
> >>>>
> >>>> Guide to testing staged releases:
> >>>>
> http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Vote open for 72 hours.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> -1 because one cannot follow the fix made in MSKINS-110.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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