On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 4:43 AM Tibor Digana <[email protected]> wrote:

> >>One thing we noticed was that the user property is the same for both
> plugins.
> We are aware of this and we will break the backwards compatibility.
> This change is planned in Surefire 3.0.
> I am thinking of temporary fix but better not to do it.
> Please reference and use these user/properties since they will be in 3.0:
> <groups>${surefire.groups}</groups>
> <groups>${failsafe.groups}</groups>
>
>
Thanks. We'll do that. We had created our own, but it's better to use the
property names which will appear in future versions of the plugins.


> Do you still need "_ALL_, _NONE_, _UNCATEGORIZED_"?
>
>
>
Not at the moment, and these were secondary. After thinking about it, "ALL"
and "NONE" aren't needed, so long as it's easy enough to set the
groups/excludedGroups properties to empty with an override. My main concern
about those two options were that it might be hard to set a property to
"empty" to override a default non-empty value, because Maven might just
treat it as though it weren't set at all, and ignore it. I'd have to
experiment to see if that's the case or if it properly sets it to null or
empty string or whatever when it's in the DOM without a value or if it's a
system property without a value.

The most useful of the three would be UNCATEGORIZED, so it can be combined
with other categories and I'd expect that would require JUnit support
underneath.


>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Tibor Digana <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Christopher,
> >
> > Some offtopic. I will answer your email but first I have a question for
> you
> > and Accumulo project.
> > I visited Accumulo cca one week ago. Why the build [1] hangs on IT test
> > executed by maven-failsafe-plugin:2.19.1?
> > I asked INFRA team to display Thread Dump button. Do you see this button,
> > can you grap the thread dump? I would like to see what's going on in
> > Failsafe plugin. We have such issue [3] but now it most probably is user
> > error because the developer overrides std/out via System.setOut() but
> this
> > hypothesis has not been confirmed yet because it's too early.
> >
> > [1] https://builds.apache.org/job/Accumulo-master-IT/
> > [2]
> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Thread+Dump+Action+Plugin
> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE-1193
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Christopher [via Maven] <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > tl;dr - A proposal for config independence for groups/excludeGroups
> > > properties and some special keywords for ALL, NONE, and UNCATEGORIZED
> > > groups.
> > >
> > > ***
> > >
> > > In the Apache Accumulo project, we're currently in process of trying to
> > > make use of JUnit categories to separate different classes of tests.
> > >
> > > So, we're using the maven-surefire-plugin and maven-failsafe-plugin
> > > configuration properties: groups, excludeGroups
> > >
> > > One thing we noticed was that the user property is the same for both
> > > plugins. This is a problem, because one cannot pass in a system
> property
> > > on
> > > the command-line to affect one without affecting the other.
> > >
> > > I propose that maven-surefire-plugin and maven-failsafe-plugin
> deprecate
> > > the existing groups/excludeGroups properties, and replace them with
> > > tests.groups/tests.excludeGroups, and it.groups/it.excludeGroups. (This
> > > should probably be done for other shared properties as well.)
> > >
> > > Users can simulate this by doing something like this:
> > > <groups>${it.groups}</groups>
> > >
> > > However, this may cause problems if the property is not defined.... I
> > > haven't tested to be sure.
> > >
> > > ***
> > >
> > > That leads me to a question and a second proposal:
> > > Is there a way to specify uncategorized test classes? Or all test
> > classes?
> > > Or none?
> > >
> > > If not, I would like to propose that some special keywords be created
> > > which
> > > can represent:
> > > _ALL_, _NONE_, _UNCATEGORIZED_ (or similar)
> > >
> > > That way, users can do things like:
> > > <groups>my.special.Category,_UNCATEGORIZED_</groups><!-- logical AND
> -->
> > > <excludeGroups>_NONE_</excludeGroups>
> > > or
> > > <groups>_NONE_</groups>
> > > or
> > > <groups>_ALL_</groups>
> > >
> > > These keywords may require some support from the underlying test
> > > framework,
> > > like JUnit, so I can understand if these keywords cannot happen.
> > >
> > > Even if the keywords cannot be made to work, I still think it'd be good
> > to
> > > deprecate-and-separate the properties for the two plugins, so they can
> be
> > > controlled independently with user properties.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
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