Aldrin, The blog entry I wrote on saturday mulled classes, javadocs and
sources -
https://paulhammant.com/2017/05/13/maven-central-as-multiple-git-repos/ (re
your "way more than" comment).

The GH repo I linked you to earlier has all three in one repo (see the
branches drop-down) - https://github.com/paul-hammant/mc-xs-all

- Paul



On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Aldrin Leal <ald...@leal.eng.br> wrote:

> I understand the approach is basically general, but maven artifacts are way
> more than binary code (there's source and javadoc). I also understand its
> an interesting option for distribution.
>
> I really would like to see something close to what "go get" does. If not
> github and bitbucket (and go get includes git, hg and bzr among scms), it
> open the URL itself and resolve it into a(by means of HTML metadata).
>
> Just distributing the source allowing it to easily updates would be
> awesome, since it would allow less effort to create and distribute. Of
> course, we could have to limit the scope of what to do to avoid abuse.
>
>
> --
> -- Aldrin Leal, <ald...@leal.eng.br> / http://about.me/aldrinleal
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Paul Hammant <p...@hammant.org> wrote:
>
> > There is that, yes. And Git's general upper limits which are subject of
> "I
> > heard of a team that had a corruption at 2GB".  I've field tested Git up
> to
> > 7GB for a git-svn-clone myself (a team considering saying bye bye to
> Svn),
> > but wouldn't put that live versus hive off history to a R/O repo, and
> start
> > over with HEAD of the old becoming the initial commit of the new.
> >
> > - Paul
> >
> > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Aldrin Leal <ald...@leal.eng.br> wrote:
> >
> > > Still, once github gets an outage, our repositories are basically
> > > 'left-padded' (taken offline)
> > >
> > > --
> > > -- Aldrin Leal, <ald...@leal.eng.br> / http://about.me/aldrinleal
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Paul Hammant <p...@hammant.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Aldrin - https://github.com/paul-hammant/mc-xs-all - no large files
> > > added
> > > > to Git. Git makes 70% saving on bytes used ('bare' mode).
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Aldrin Leal <ald...@leal.eng.br>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just a friendly reminder that git is not optimized for large files
> > (for
> > > > > this, they made git-lfs). Plus, when you do checkout a git repo,
> > > there's
> > > > no
> > > > > binary diffs - so if you've got plenty of releases, you'll be
> > wasting a
> > > > lot
> > > > > of space/time in terms of transmission and storage.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > -- Aldrin Leal, <ald...@leal.eng.br> / http://about.me/aldrinleal
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Paul Hammant <p...@hammant.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > We can agree to differ on what I'm suggesting and what the impact
> > of
> > > > that
> > > > > > would be :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Brian Fox <bri...@infinity.nu>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Even more than redefining what Central does, you're effectively
> > > > > > describing
> > > > > > > a new, unofficial java class packaging and distribution
> > mechanism.
> > > > This
> > > > > > > seems like it will violate signatures etc and make tracking of
> > what
> > > > you
> > > > > > > actually have a nightmare.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <
> > > > herve.bout...@free.fr>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > this idea of putting everything in git is funny: not sure
> this
> > > will
> > > > > go
> > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > far from this poc, but let's imagine...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > on classes branch, splitting the jar into individual .class
> has
> > > > IMHO
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > big
> > > > > > > > drawback: we loose original jar and its signature
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On the other branches, the current poc shows commits for
> > versions
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > perfectly linear: if there are multiple branches that are
> > > released
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > parallel, the commit won't be so clean. I don't know if this
> > will
> > > > > have
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > impact on compression efficiency.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Another issue with this idea: during development, with
> > SNAPSHOTs,
> > > > the
> > > > > > git
> > > > > > > > repo
> > > > > > > > will be polluted: this idea IMHO could only be valid for
> > releases
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > not to speak about read concurrency when one requires to use
> > > > multiple
> > > > > > > > versions
> > > > > > > > of a lib. And of course, write concurrency is even harder.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Definitely, the idea is funny, but I don't see how this could
> > go
> > > > very
> > > > > > far
> > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > this funny idea (in addition to the complexity for
> implementing
> > > > this
> > > > > > > > format in
> > > > > > > > tooling)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hervé
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Le lundi 15 mai 2017, 21:45:00 CEST Paul Hammant a écrit :
> > > > > > > > > One more repo:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/paul-hammant/mc-xs-all/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One branch for each of classes, javadoc, sources, and poms
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 15 javadoc original versions: 24.1M
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 16 sources original versions: 4.9M
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 27 classes original versions: 8.4M
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Afterwards git work the bare .git folder is: 8.4M
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *77.5% saving on storage*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any artifact, *including the poms,* can be pulled down via
> a
> > > > single
> > > > > > git
> > > > > > > > > command
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > git clone https://github.com/paul-hammant/mc-xs-classes
> > > --depth
> > > > 1
> > > > > > > > --branch
> > > > > > > > > TAGNAME
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 74 TAGNAMEs: classes-0.1, classes-0.2, classes-0.3,
> > > classes-0.5,
> > > > > > > > > classes-0.6, classes-1.0, classes-1.0.1, classes-1.0.2,
> > > > > classes-1.1,
> > > > > > > > > classes-1.1.1, classes-1.1.2, classes-1.1.3, classes-1.2,
> > > > > > > classes-1.2.1,
> > > > > > > > > classes-1.2.2, classes-1.3, classes-1.3.1, classes-1.4,
> > > > > > classes-1.4.1,
> > > > > > > > > classes-1.4.2, classes-1.4.3, classes-1.4.4, classes-1.4.5,
> > > > > > > > classes-1.4.6,
> > > > > > > > > classes-1.4.7, classes-1.4.8, classes-1.4.9, javadoc-1.2,
> > > > > > > javadoc-1.2.1,
> > > > > > > > > javadoc-1.2.2, javadoc-1.3, javadoc-1.3.1, javadoc-1.4,
> > > > > > javadoc-1.4.1,
> > > > > > > > > javadoc-1.4.2, javadoc-1.4.3, javadoc-1.4.4, javadoc-1.4.5,
> > > > > > > > javadoc-1.4.6,
> > > > > > > > > javadoc-1.4.7, javadoc-1.4.8, javadoc-1.4.9, pom-1.2,
> > > pom-1.2.1,
> > > > > > > > pom-1.2.2,
> > > > > > > > > pom-1.3, pom-1.3.1, pom-1.4, pom-1.4.1, pom-1.4.2,
> pom-1.4.3,
> > > > > > > pom-1.4.4,
> > > > > > > > > pom-1.4.5, pom-1.4.6, pom-1.4.7, pom-1.4.8, pom-1.4.9,
> > > > > sources-1.1.3,
> > > > > > > > > sources-1.2, sources-1.2.1, sources-1.2.2, sources-1.3,
> > > > > > sources-1.3.1,
> > > > > > > > > sources-1.4, sources-1.4.1, sources-1.4.2, sources-1.4.3,
> > > > > > > sources-1.4.4,
> > > > > > > > > sources-1.4.5, sources-1.4.6, sources-1.4.7, sources-1.4.8,
> > > > > > > sources-1.4.9
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  - Paul
> > > > > > > >
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