Real-world scm or wagon <extensions> won't trigger maven2-compat code
path [1]. To avoid that obscure code path we can either make the test
more elaborate (i.e. add dependencies to extjar1/extjar2) or we can use
extensions <plugin>. Either way I don't think we should spend time on
the code path unlikely to be used in real life.

[1]
https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/maven-3.5.1/maven-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/project/DefaultProjectBuildingHelper.java#L210-L219

-- 
Regards,
Igor

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 03:29 AM, Robert Scholte wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:12:47 +0200, Stephen Connolly  
> <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed 20 Sep 2017 at 01:29, Igor Fedorenko <i...@ifedorenko.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In that case, can I suggest couple of changes to the test project
> >>
> >> * I thinks it makes more sense to configure extjar1 and extjar2 as
> >> extensions <plugin> elements in probleN pom.xml files. First, there is
> >> no meaningful order between <extensions> and <plugins> elements. More
> >> importantly, though, simple <extensions> are treated in special
> >> maven2-compat mode and are not representative of likely real-world
> >> extensions.
> >
> 
> Not sure I agree with this. I think there are jars worth sharing across  
> multiple plugins, but where making the plugin an extension is a bit
> weird.
> I'm thinking of scm and wagon in this case.
> 
> >
> > That sounds like we need documentation updated then. None of that is
> > obvious to me.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> * I think we should introduce META-INF/maven/extension.xml to the test
> >> extensions. This metadata what introduced to configure classpath
> >> visibility, so lets use it.
> >
> >
> > Again, not obvious to me, if that file allows control of classpath
> > visibility then it may be that the only issue *with* 3.5.1 is the lack of
> > documentation... now previous versions would have been adding breaking
> > changes from my PoV but that is the past and should not affect the 3.5.1
> > release.
> >
> > PRs for the probe project welcome. I am happy to try and write docs once  
> > I
> > have an understanding of what the expected behaviours are
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Igor
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017, at 05:12 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> >> > Yes, the expectations are key. Depending on what they are we may  
> >> either
> >> > drop 3.5.1 or go ahead as it depends on whether this is more correct  
> >> than
> >> > 3.5.0 or swapping one fix for a bug
> >> >
> >> > On Tue 19 Sep 2017 at 21:39, Igor Fedorenko <i...@ifedorenko.com>  
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Just to confirm I understand what we are trying to establish here.  
> >> We
> >> > > want to decide the expected/desired component injection behaviour  
> >> and
> >> > > classpath visibility in the absence of package and artifact export
> >> > > configuration (i.e. META-INF/maven/extension.xml file). Did I get  
> >> this
> >> > > right?
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > Igor
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017, at 03:52 PM, Robert Scholte wrote:
> >> > > > Let's do it like this:
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/2329841/classrealms.pdf?api=v2
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Robert
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:08:39 +0200, Stephen Connolly
> >> > > > <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I think you will need a link to the PDF as attachments are  
> >> stripped
> >> > > from
> >> > > > > the ML
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue 19 Sep 2017 at 19:57, Robert Scholte  
> >> <rfscho...@apache.org>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Attached a single page overview.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Per block you'll see in the upper left corner the executed  
> >> plugin
> >> > > > >> The left column contains the extensions and plugin in orderas
> >> > > specified
> >> > > > >> in
> >> > > > >> the pom.xml
> >> > > > >> In every classloadercolumn you'll see numbers which represent  
> >> the
> >> > > order.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> I hope I didn't make any mistakes.
> >> > > > >> Tomorrow I have enough time to see if I understand what's
> >> happening
> >> > > > >> here.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> I will come back with my conclusions.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Robert
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:55:08 +0200, Igor Fedorenko <
> >> > > i...@ifedorenko.com>
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > TL;DR your test project exposed two existing bugs, one  
> >> change in
> >> > > > >> > behaviour and one quirk I can't explain
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > * Build `<extensions>` are loaded by two classloaders, which  
> >> is
> >> a
> >> > > bug
> >> > > > >> in
> >> > > > >> > DefaultProjectBuildingHelper#createProjectRealm and explains
> >> why you
> >> > > > >> see
> >> > > > >> > extjar1/extjar2 in the output
> >> > > > >> > * ClassRealm does not allow same foreign-import from multiple
> >> > > > >> > classloaders, which is a bug and explains why it is not
> >> possible to
> >> > > > >> load
> >> > > > >> > same resource from multiple plugins/extensions
> >> > > > >> > * TCCL does not have access to private (i.e. not exported)
> >> resources
> >> > > > >> of
> >> > > > >> > this extensions plugin, which is a change of behaviour
> >> introduced by
> >> > > > >> > mng-6209 fix
> >> > > > >> > * Also, component injection order appears to be backwards,  
> >> but
> >> maybe
> >> > > > >> > Stuart can explain why.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Below is more detailed explanation of expected and observed
> >> > > behaviour
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > ## Component injection depends on the currently running  
> >> plugin
> >> and
> >> > > the
> >> > > > >> > injection site
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Currently running plugins have access to the following  
> >> component
> >> > > > >> > implementations:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > * Regular plugin has access to components implemented by the
> >> plugin,
> >> > > > >> > project build extensions, if any (via project class realm
> >> foreign
> >> > > > >> > import) and Maven Core.
> >> > > > >> > * Extension plugin has access to components implemented by  
> >> the
> >> > > project
> >> > > > >> > build extensions and Maven Core.
> >> > > > >> > * Without a running plugin (e.g., during project dependency
> >> > > > >> resolution),
> >> > > > >> > components implemented by the project build extensions and  
> >> Maven
> >> > > Core
> >> > > > >> > are accessible.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Different injection sites have access to the following  
> >> component
> >> > > > >> > interfaces:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > * Maven Core has access to component interfaces defined by  
> >> the
> >> core
> >> > > > >> > itself (obviously)
> >> > > > >> > * Project build extensions have access to **public**  
> >> component
> >> > > > >> > interfaces defined by Maven Core and component interfaces
> >> defined by
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > build extension itself (there is no way to access component
> >> > > interfaces
> >> > > > >> > defined in other extensions)
> >> > > > >> > * Regular plugins have access to **public** component  
> >> interfaces
> >> > > > >> defined
> >> > > > >> > by Maven Core, component interfaces **exported** by build
> >> extensions
> >> > > > >> and
> >> > > > >> > component interfaces defined in the plugin itself
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > For injection to work, injection site has to have access to  
> >> the
> >> > > > >> > component interface and the component implementation must be
> >> > > > >> accessible
> >> > > > >> > through the current context.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > From what I can tell, in your example all plugins have access
> >> to the
> >> > > > >> > right components when using current 3.5.2-SNAPSHOT. The
> >> injection
> >> > > > >> order
> >> > > > >> > does appear to be backwards from what I expected, however.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > ## Resources lookup fully depends on classpath visibility,
> >> > > > >> specifically
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > * Regular plugin class realm has access to resources from the
> >> plugin
> >> > > > >> > itself, from **exported** packages of the project build
> >> extensions
> >> > > and
> >> > > > >> > **public** Maven Core packages
> >> > > > >> > * Extensions plugin class realm has access to the resources
> >> from the
> >> > > > >> > extensions plugin itself and from **public** Maven Core  
> >> packages
> >> > > > >> > * Project class realm has access to classes and resources
> >> > > **exported**
> >> > > > >> > by project build extensions and **public** Maven Core  
> >> packages
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > I see three problems here
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > * Maven adds build single-jar `<extensions>` elements  
> >> directly
> >> to
> >> > > > >> > project class realm **and** creates separate extensions class
> >> realms
> >> > > > >> for
> >> > > > >> > them. Which results in duplicate classes/resources loaded by  
> >> two
> >> > > > >> > classloaders and explains why you see extjar1/extjar2 output
> >> (which
> >> > > > >> you
> >> > > > >> > shouldn't according to the explanation above)
> >> > > > >> > * ClassRealm does not allow foreign-import of the same  
> >> package
> >> from
> >> > > > >> > multiple classloaders. This makes it impossible to load the  
> >> same
> >> > > > >> > resource from multiple plugins/extensions.
> >> > > > >> > * Extensions plugins cannot access their own private (i.e.  
> >> not
> >> > > > >> exported)
> >> > > > >> > resources via TCCL, this is change in behaviour introduced by
> >> > > mng-6209
> >> > > > >> > fix
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Hope this helps
> >> > > > >>
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