I'm not worried about attempt to download: the issue you found proves that the 
value of the mirror url blocks anything, even if not really the ideal way

but you're right that it's hard to understand from a user perspective...

I just managed to fix the issue:
https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/d295dc362fe7d7b189b4976a5742a17362eb51a1

perhaps we should respin 3.8.1

Regards,

Hervé

Le mercredi 24 mars 2021, 20:51:10 CET Maarten Mulders a écrit :
> A 0-vote from my side. As far as I can tell, non-TLS repos are indeed
> blocked. That is the main reason for cutting this release, and it works,
> which is good.
> 
> But if I understood Hervé correctly, the message that appears when Maven
> attempts download of an artifact over a non-TLS connection differs
> depending on which component attempted the download. This has two
> consequences:
> 
> 1. The message is sometimes pretty clear, but sometimes rather vague. An
> example of the latter one: "Checksum validation failed, expected Lorem
> but is a0a3234b13da255645808f53efb387d26ae441db". One must be quite
> clever to deduce that Maven attempted to download something over HTTP.
> 
> 2. I am worried that we may have missed a component that also attempts
> to download artifacts, and still allows non-HTTP connections.
> 
> 
> Maybe I didn't understand correctly - I actually hope so. In that case,
> please explain me where my understanding is wrong.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Maarten
> 
> On March 24th, 2021 at 18:54, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > Whenever I have to explain to colleagues that Maven "burns" version
> > numbers
> > when a release candidate fails or some other obtuse reason, they are just
> > as baffled as I am. In the end it does not matter it's just bizarre.
> > 
> > Gary
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 20:58 Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> +0
> >> Same reason as Ralph, the versioning seems weird to me.
> >> I don't understand the reasoning of version number. Our version number
> >> doesn't have to be managed by some tweet or google links.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 09:17, Ralph Goers <[email protected]>
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> If I were a user and expected the feature to be in 3.7.0 then I would
> >>> certainly also expect it in 3.8.0. The only ways to avoid this are a)
> >> 
> >> stay
> >> 
> >>> on 3.6.x.x until the feature is available, b) specifically say the
> >> 
> >> promised
> >> 
> >>> features aren’t available yet.
> >>> 
> >>> That said I’m +0 on the version numbering.
> >>> 
> >>> Ralph
> >>> 
> >>>> On Mar 22, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Robert Scholte <[email protected]>
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> There were enough tweets and conference talks were I demonstrated the
> >>> 
> >>> idea behind build/consumer.
> >>> 
> >>>> Of course the audience wanted to hear a version, so the best possible
> >>> 
> >>> answer was "most likely 3.7.0"
> >>> 
> >>>> First Google hit: Maven 3.7 to Include Default Wrapper - InfoQ[1] and
> >>> 
> >>> you can find much more.
> >>> 
> >>>> Several PMC members discussed about what would be the proper value, the
> >>> 
> >>> result was in the end 3.8.0.
> >>> 
> >>>> Most important: it is beyond 3.6.3 and before 4.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Robert
> >>>> 
> >>>> [1] https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/04/maven-wrapper/
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 22-3-2021 21:14:10, Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]>
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>>> I'm a weak -1 on this, solely because I don't find the reasoning for
> >>>> not calling this 3.7.0 to be compelling. "Apache Maven 3.7.0 would be
> >>>> the first release where you could optionally activate the
> >>>> build/consumer feature. This version of this release has been renamed
> >>>> to 4.0.0. Reusing 3.7.0 might lead to confusion, hence we picked the
> >>>> next available minor version."
> >>>> 
> >>>> Are we sure? I certainly didn't expect 3.7.0 to be the first release
> >>>> where you could optionally activate the build/consumer feature. I
> >>>> can't say I expected anything in particular for 3.7.0. Did Maven ever
> >>>> promise there would be a 3.7.0 with this feature?
> >>>> 
> >>>> If it were renamed 3.7.0 I'd be at +1.
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 7:40 PM Robert Scholte wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> For the details about this release, please read
> >>> 
> >>> https://maven.apache.org/docs/3.8.0/release-notes.html
> >>> 
> >>>>> Also please provide feedback on the release notes. (as you know, these
> >>> 
> >>> are published separately from the release, so it doesn't have to block
> >> 
> >> the
> >> 
> >>> release itself)
> >>> 
> >>>>> We solved 5 issues:
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12316922
> >> &version=12350003&styleName=Text>> 
> >>>>> There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%2012316922%20AND
> >> %20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20ORDER%20BY%20key%20DESC%2C%20priority%
> >> 20DESC>> 
> >>>>> Staging repo:
> >>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-1633/
> >> 
> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/binaries/a
> >> pache-maven-3.8.0-bin.zip
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/source/apa
> >> che-maven-3.8.0-src.zip>> 
> >>>>> Source release checksum(s):
> >> 
> >>>>> apache-maven-3.8.0-bin.zip sha512:
> >> b56da9a0efa45e084e4882b795787fc7b61970d19835635b2db099b91a9854f14e3776a01
> >> d569e3f7af9db946a05af91abbfad41cdc5ac09e90df25077dec01e>> 
> >>>>> apache-maven-3.8.0-src.zip sha512:
> >> 51a1570894e8fb1ef52cb19ce472866745ccae2720e45304edd3cabc212cdf105937c7650
> >> 2558fe87995aea81c41402d7f581cc8e9393af234b64696e9a45893>> 
> >>>>> Staging site:
> >>>>> https://maven.apache.org/ref/3-LATEST/
> >> 
> >>>>> Guide to testing staged releases:
> >> https://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
> >> 
> >>>>> Vote open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> [ ] +1
> >>>>> [ ] +0
> >>>>> [ ] -1
> >>>> 
> >>>> --
> >>>> Elliotte Rusty Harold
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>> 
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