Le lundi 14 mars 2022, 08:01:11 CET Maarten Mulders a écrit : > Just to clarify: "Raise the entire baseline to Maven 3.5.4" means that > the official Maven plugins will only work from Maven Core 3.5.4 onwards? yes
> In that case, +1 to move the baseline to 3.5.4. > > Point of concern/question: this may be a breaking change in some cases - > how do we communicate that in terms of versioning? Ideally - I'd say - a > 3.x plugin works on Maven 3.x, a future 4.x plugin works on Maven 4.x, > etc... that's why I was proposing to document properly, for example like https://github.com/git-commit-id/git-commit-id-maven-plugin#plugin-compatibility-with-java > > Also, I agree with Eliotte when it comes to package managers. Even > though we do not maintain those ourselves, it's a fact that many people > use them to install software on their machines, including Maven. Acting > as if it's none of our business would probably equal ignoring those users. if someone wants to start a page on Maven Site, so everybody can contribute by proposing a PR, that would be nice > >> Even more ambitiously, perhaps we should rethink how maven is > >> installed. Why should it come from anywhere but Maven Central, and why you know what, it's what Maven Wrapper is about :) Regards, Hervé > > > Maarten > > On 13/03/2022 22:04, Enrico Olivelli wrote: > > +1 > > > > Thanks for bringing this up > > > > Enrico > > > > Il giorno dom 13 mar 2022 alle ore 20:58 Elliotte Rusty Harold > > > > <elh...@ibiblio.org> ha scritto: > >> What do all the various package managers install? I'm pretty sure I've > >> seen one lately whose default was 3.3.1. Debian perhaps? > >> > >> I think before we make any such move it would make sense to audit what > >> people who don't manually install Maven are likely to have. First we > >> should raise all those to 3.5.4 or later. Then we can upgrade the > >> minimum version. > >> > >> Even more ambitiously, perhaps we should rethink how maven is > >> installed. Why should it come from anywhere but Maven Central, and why > >> can't a pom.xml specify the version of Maven itself? All we really > >> should install is a very simple bootstrap script. But that's probably > >> a discussion for another day. Let's get the package managers > >> straightened out first. > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 11:48 AM Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> Folks, > >>> > >>> as you might now we are dragging old luggage over and over with every > >>> new year. We are making (little) progress with cleansing, skimming and > >>> updating of our components. > >>> > >>> I'll will make a radical proposal I have already discussed privately > >>> with other fellow committers over Slack: > >>> Raise the entire baseline to Maven 3.5.4, all of our raises have been > >>> intermediaries. Reasoning: > >>> * Maven 3.5.4 is almost 4 old, it is settled > >>> * Everything before we shouls consider ancient, if you haven't moved > >>> yet, you will not and it will be your problem. > >>> * It is the first version which uses Maven Resolver [1] > >>> * It will free resources to test with previous releases which most don't > >>> do anyway > >>> * Maybe this will make it even easier to migrate to the upcoming Maven > >>> Core API > >>> > >>> WDYT? > >>> > >>> Michael > >>> > >>> PS: I don't even mind 3.6.3 personally, thought I don't this benefit. > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Maven+Ecosystem+Cleanu > >>> p#MavenEcosystemCleanup-ResolverandMaven > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > >> -- > >> Elliotte Rusty Harold > >> elh...@ibiblio.org > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
