Howdy,

I may be late, sorry about that, but few days ago pulled this page from
archive org (was hosted and lost on codehaus confluence):
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Versioning

As based on this page was Maven3 versioning implemented, at least according
to this page:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Maven+3.x+Compatibility+Notes

That was written at dawn of Maven3.

Hth
T

On Sat, Feb 25, 2023, 15:26 Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]>
wrote:

> After further investigation I'm willing to state that MNG-7701 is
> invalid, and I closed it.
>
> MNG-7700 is mostly invalid. There's a bit of a glitch around the
> "canonical representation" of version strings of the form 0.x that
> does not affect comparisons. However, nowhere do we define or promise
> anything about the canonical representation so it's hard to call it a
> bug.
>
> In all cases I've looked at, the comparison of two versions behaves
> according to spec. INHO, neither of these issues should block the
> release.
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 9:03 AM Tamás Cservenák <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> > just an update of Maven status (links will assume you are logged in to
> > JIRA):
> >
> > * 3.9.1 all done
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MNG%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%203.9.1
> > * 3.9.1 candidates
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MNG%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%203.9.1-candidate
> > (Elliotte plans to fix for weekend MNG-7700 and MNG-7701 if it is not
> > grabbed by anyone else until then)
> >
> > This means 3.9.1 is shaping really nicely
> >
> > Furthermore, for resolver:
> >
> > * 1.9.6 (will not make into 3.9.1 but probably 3.9.2):
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MRESOLVER%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%201.9.6
> > (topic: bugfixes and improvements, would include
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-7705 that does not yet has
> > corresponding MRESOLVER issue)
> > * planned 1.10.0
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MRESOLVER%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%201.10.0
> > (topic: HTTP/2 and other improvements, probably makes file-lock default)
> >
> > Thanks
> > T
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 4:58 AM Jeremy Landis <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Update on issue I'm facing.
> > >
> > > The issue is using the site:jar during the release process.  Rather
> than
> > > deploy site to any location, we jar it and deploy it with normal
> artifacts
> > > to Artifactory.  Since that plugin goal wants the full build
> (aggregate),
> > > it fails against numerous plugins such as javadoc, jxr, etc.  I presume
> > > rather than that running during package phase, it needs to be moved
> and run
> > > separately like how the site-deploy works with the release plugin.  Any
> > > ideas on best way to deal with this?  Right now it feels like its done
> in
> > > the right place, we even skip the 'site-deploy' entirely.  But clearly
> that
> > > isn't exactly good enough in this case.
> > >
> > > I don't think now that this is a maven 3.9.0 issue itself.  I think its
> > > more of something that is a big change in this specific use case that
> just
> > > needs some direction to resolve.  The more and more I've looked at
> this the
> > > more I've found little things that have changed over the years that had
> > > resulted in multiple site runs and some plugins from running exactly
> where
> > > expected.  So this has been a hugely beneficial effort for us and just
> need
> > > to figure this last bit out.  My next steps are to look more deeply
> into
> > > release plugin and how the site-deploy is actually working as that
> seems
> > > like I want to mimic that behaviour.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jeremy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeremy Landis <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 12:30 PM
> > > To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: RE: [HEADS UP] Maven Release 3.9.1 coming soon
> > >
> > > Hi Tomas,
> > >
> > > Will get back to you on ability to collect that data, lots of hoops to
> do
> > > so.  It may be easier I just build sample project.
> > >
> > > On the cache, thanks for calling that out as not maven.  It was gradle
> > > enterprise maven extension.  I turned it off to rule it out and
> behaviour
> > > is the same just without any mention of the cache.
> > >
> > > I even tried to checkout the release tag and perform full build before
> > > running perform but that just failed with issues running install plugin
> > > during release:perform. So, I backed off to what is focus...
> > >
> > > To focus more on the site is the problem, I tried numerous attempts to
> > > make it stop running but couldn't get that to stick so I went into the
> > > cached parent used and set skip directly then ran release:perform
> again.
> > > It worked doing that.
> > >
> > > So on the aggregator behaviour change.  Assuming then pre 3.9.0, when
> site
> > > plugins encountered and forked, if it was not already built it would
> build
> > > all?  That seems to be the problem...which would make sense why a
> single
> > > module project does not encounter this at all.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jeremy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tamás Cservenák <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 10:35 AM
> > > To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] Maven Release 3.9.1 coming soon
> > >
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > Wow, there are a lot of moving parts.... release plugin, site (within
> > > release?)...
> > >
> > > Do you use any 3rd party extension maybe? (unsure what build cache is
> in
> > > the realm of Maven 3.8.x, that works for you).
> > >
> > > But my first guess is a change in aggregator behaviour (pre 3.9.0 it
> was
> > > building ALL, in 3.9.0 it builds only what is aggregated).
> > >
> > > Ideally we'd really need a reproducer, and possibly some logs/outputs
> of
> > > what is actually happening here...
> > >
> > > If possible, and allowed, you can send me privately a ZIP of logs, and
> > > will handle it discreetly.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > T
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 4:27 PM Jeremy Landis <
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't have a sharable example at the moment to show but hope enough
> > > > information here can spot the issue from one I just ran.  If any
> > > > details missing, I can quickly apply more info.
> > > >
> > > > On multi module build, this is the steps.
> > > >
> > > > mvn release:clean -> ok
> > > > mvn release:prepare -> ok
> > > > mvn release:perform -> fails
> > > >
> > > > Failure is that it tries to run the maven-site-plugin at what seems
> > > > the immediate start of the process.  These phases run...
> > > >
> > > > 1/3 -> perform:verify-completed-prepare-phases
> > > > 2/3 -> perform:checkout-project-from-scm
> > > > 3/3 -> perform:run-perform-goals
> > > >
> > > > First goal ran 'deploy site-deploy'
> > > >
> > > > Gets a warning: This build will only read from the build cache, since
> > > > the clean lifecycle is not part of the build invocation.
> > > >
> > > > That seems suspect given its just checked it out so how can it use
> > > > build cache there?  I did try a subsequent mvn clean release:perform
> > > > which got through that, threw lots of enforcer errors for missing
> > > > parts, then back to trying to run the site and same failure.
> > > >
> > > > The failure is that it didn't even build the product.  So site plugin
> > > > gets error that the artifacts for the release version don't exist.
> > > >
> > > > All maven release plugin settings involved otherwise
> > > >
> > > > - addSchema set to false
> > > > - arguments -Daether.checksums.algorithms=SHA-512,SHA-256,SHA-1, MD5
> > > > - autoVersionSubmodules set to true
> > > > - release profiles as release | sign
> > > >
> > > > Our release profile simply does this
> > > >
> > > > - skip versions plugin
> > > > - skip dependency check plugin
> > > > - skip license plugin
> > > > - skip site deploy (strange that its doing site-deploy when we told
> it
> > > > not to).  Executions on site are attach-descriptor, site, and jar.
> We
> > > > do not deploy to a site but we do release the jar of the site
> content.
> > > > - javadocs run as goal jar, test-jar (with a skip on earlier general
> > > > runs we do for checking)
> > > > - jar plugin we run test-jar
> > > > - source plugin we run jar-no-fork and test-jar-no-fork
> > > >
> > > > Our sign profile
> > > >
> > > > - Runs sign goal of gpg plugin
> > > >
> > > > Versions involved
> > > >
> > > > - site 3.12.1
> > > > - release plugin version 3.0.0-M7
> > > >
> > > > All our plugins are up to date as of 12/21/2022.
> > > >
> > > > I know having a real life one to test with would be easier and I can
> > > > work on getting one together for that purpose but hoping its
> something
> > > > obvious that rings some bells as to why the behaviour is that way.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jeremy Landis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeremy Landis <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 11:32 AM
> > > > To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] Maven Release 3.9.1 coming soon
> > > >
> > > > Not yet.  I'll work on getting that together.  For now we easily
> > > > enough drop back to 3.8.7 in those cases as we exclusively use the
> maven
> > > wrapper.
> > > > So it has not been super critical for us yet.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for
> > > > Android<
> > > >
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> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Tamás Cservenák <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 11:24:58 AM
> > > > To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] Maven Release 3.9.1 coming soon
> > > >
> > > > Jeremy,
> > > >
> > > > Any specifics about the problems you face? And ideally a reproducer?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > T
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 17:21 Jeremy Landis <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We have been unable to release multi module builds with maven 3
> 9.0.
> > > > > It seems the site has major problems trying to resolve the build
> > > > artifacts.
> > > > > Has this been reported yet or do any of the resolver items fix
> that?
> > > > > Single module releases using identical configuration release fine.
> > > > >
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> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 9:52:44 AM
> > > > > To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] Maven Release 3.9.1 coming soon
> > > > >
> > > > > IMHO MNG-7700 and MNG-7701 are blockers. MNG-7704 is not a blocker.
> > > > > MNG-7703 I'm not sure of, but probably not.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 12:05 PM Michael Osipov
> > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am 2023-02-20 um 12:40 schrieb Tamás Cservenák:
> > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The release of Maven 3.9.1, if nothing unexpected comes up, is
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > happen
> > > > > > > around next week (most of the issues will be fixed once
> resolver
> > > > > > > upped
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > newly released 1.9.5):
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Notable fixes
> > > > > > > - The 10% slowness is gone (introduced with 3.9.0)
> > > > > > > - The endless loops with webjars is fixed (long time existing
> > > > > > > issue)
> > > > > > > - The IAEx with sha1-like (hex) versions is fixed (long time
> > > > > > > existing
> > > > > issue)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This release would be incomplete:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * This must be fixed:
> > > > >
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> > > > > > **
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