On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 7:52 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So are we in "I see it as somebody forcing me to move forward" vs "I see it > as the project attraction decreasing and the community misbehaving"? > > Any way we find a compromise or should we just vote and be it? > With my Eclipse PMC hat on I can only assure you that voting (binding votes!) is the only thing that works in such cases as whatever people say these discussions never end up technological but rather philosophical/ethical/etc. aka anything but technological and it's normal when we speak about widely used projects as the types of technology they are used for by different entities quite often have nothing else in common. The longer such discussions go the more bitterness spreads, getting more people nervous, insulted etc. At the first sign of these things I just call a vote to be done with it before the cancer spreads. Asking the most vocal ones of each camp to write a short paragraph explaining why their option is best. I really hope that this experience from another community helps Maven too. > > Romain Manni-Bucau > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < > https://github.com/rmannibucau> | > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book > < > https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance > > > > > Le mar. 6 juin 2023 à 18:32, Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> a écrit > : > > > Am 2023-06-06 um 07:42 schrieb Hervé Boutemy: > > > it's not about *one not wanting* to upgrade (anybody can use JDK 17 if > > they want currently) > > > > > > it's about *one forcing everybody else* to upgrade (and enter the > > toolchain setup question) > > > > EXACTLY! > > > > > -- Aleksandar Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse Team