The fat* mechanism is already present even in maven 3.9, but not so visible:
https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/maven-3.9.x/maven-artifact/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/artifact/handler/ArtifactHandler.java#L51

Is "fat" when this method returns true.

Moreover, the new type would give you (as a consumer) more control, it
allows you to NOT depend on upstream publisher (is he rewriting POM? Does
he do a good job rewriting it? etc). If you declare your dependency as
"fatjar" and not just "jar", or "fatmodule" not just "module", it makes
resolver STOP.

Thanks
T

On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 9:53 PM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> The fat* is needed to STOP resolver resolving further external
> dependencies (or in-reactor ones), it gives you more control to _express_
> this case to Maven.
>
> Typical case:
> - you have in reactor "uber" JAR built (with replace POM set)
> - hence, you deploy the rewritten POM, so for consumers you are OK
> - BUT _within reactor_ Maven will NOT (and cannot) be aware of _rewritten_
> module, so you need to "exclude all" in subsequent modules depending on
> uber module:
>
> https://github.com/maveniverse/mima/blob/main/cli/pom.xml#L83-L94
> So, this one would need to be type="fatjar" and result would be same but
> more expressive:
>
> Basically these just extend the "vocabulary" to express what it is.
>
> T
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 9:35 PM Henning Schmiedehausen <
> henn...@schmiedehausen.org> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand fatjar and fatmodule. Why would we need that? How would
>> maven treat this different from a regular jar / module ?
>>
>> -h
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 8:10 AM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Howdy,
>> >
>> > The current draft of types we want to introduce (and  packaging):
>> > https://gist.github.com/cstamas/4e9bcbef25ce912a90ad1e127b0c5db8
>> >
>> > ===
>> >
>> > Romain, I don't understand your "This is wrong, downstream is either
>> module
>> > or jar", as it was actually you and your example that mentioned "once
>> put
>> > it here, once put it there". Nothing is lost IMHO, just like in case of
>> > "takari-jar" nothing is lost.
>> >
>> > Or if we misunderstood each other: by "downstream" I mean "down the
>> road,
>> > when a project being built, is about to be consumed as dependency".
>> >
>> > And the point is, that exactly due ArtifactHandler/ArtifactType/Type (in
>> > mvn4), Maven "sees" it as "jar" or "module" or whatever, but for
>> resolver,
>> > those two are _same thing_. It is _same file_. And this is the crux, as
>> for
>> > the resolver, it is really about getting that one file, while the type
>> (for
>> > Maven) tells HOW to make use of it. So for resolving, there is no any
>> kind
>> > of "lost" information, again, the very same way it works for
>> "takari-jar".
>> >
>> > T
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 3:52 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Le dim. 29 oct. 2023 à 15:29, Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> a
>> > > écrit :
>> > >
>> > > > Howdy,
>> > > >
>> > > > So to return to the "root" idea (of Maven), Maven is "declarative",
>> > where
>> > > > users should declare what they want, it should most certainly not
>> > "guess"
>> > > > what user intent is. As long as we have "magical implicit guesswork"
>> > > (like
>> > > > that in javadoc) present in process, it is bad, as that means we do
>> not
>> > > > allow our users to express their goal.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Yes and i liked that but we broke it with forcing plugin version
>> locking
>> > > (for good) so we can need to revise our root too to match current
>> world
>> > > which is no more unique, makes years we ignore that fact but it
>> already
>> > > blows up.
>> > >
>> > > So my 2cts are  we cant by design here, we tried hard and failed, not
>> > > technically but by design.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Originally Mojos were envisioned to be simple, focused, doing one
>> thing
>> > > and
>> > > > doing it well (a la UNIX tools). Some plugins went in the total
>> > opposite
>> > > > direction, as they became Godzilla plugins (with unmaintainable
>> complex
>> > > and
>> > > > large amounts of "logic" -- guess logic and bloated codebase)
>> targeting
>> > > to
>> > > > solve "everything". This also resulted in our users assuming "every
>> > > problem
>> > > > should have a corresponding Mojo" (this also steered toward bloated,
>> > over
>> > > > complex Mojos), where many many other aspects and capabilities of
>> Maven
>> > > > were totally neglected, like lifecycle, custom packaging and so on.
>> > > >
>> > > > In short, Romain, yes, today, you CAN build all sort of things in
>> > "smart
>> > > > way", just like cooking a soup: get a good base (packaging), add a
>> > little
>> > > > bit of this (mojo A) and a little bit of that (mojo B) and voila,
>> you
>> > > will
>> > > > end up with a "soup". And it works, yes, but this "smart" way has
>> many
>> > > > pitfalls along the way, with most problematic of not being explicit.
>> > But
>> > > by
>> > > > doing that, your build becomes Ant-ish (imperative-ish), and you are
>> > > > sliding off the declarative path.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > For cases needing it and all the mentionned ones are (and will) NOT
>> (be)
>> > > mainstream.
>> > > So all good IMHO.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Also, you ARE aware that if you build a project w/ packaging=module
>> > (that
>> > > > as output has an artifact with extension jar), you DON'T HAVE TO
>> > address
>> > > it
>> > > > downstream (when you depend on it) as "module", right? This is the
>> > actual
>> > > > reason why I brought up Takari Lifecycle, as there you are building
>> > > > projects with packaging=takari-jar, but when you consume those, you
>> > refer
>> > > > to them as type=jar, and not as type=takari-jar, right?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > This is wrong, downstream is either module or jar, here you loose if
>> it
>> > is
>> > > a module transitively and module assume all transitive deps are which
>> is
>> > > very often wrong so it does not work downstream.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > So, I have a feeling that you bring bold conclusions (like "Your
>> > solution
>> > > > is valid technically but does not solve the original issue"), you do
>> > not
>> > > > really understand what I am trying to say here.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Hooe you are true but trust me i went where you are and my conclusion
>> is
>> > it
>> > > cant be done right for enough projects to be worth it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Also, "this" certainly does NOT "work well today" (even in this
>> thread
>> > > poor
>> > > > tooling mentioned), but true, you can hack-around it, or alike, but
>> > none
>> > > of
>> > > > current solutions are explicit, declarative and naturally expressed
>> in
>> > > > Maven (but are bolted on).
>> > > >
>> > > > Finally, having anything "on top" of resolver is not gonna help
>> > anything,
>> > > > as Resolver is really about Artifacts only (Everything is an
>> Artifact!)
>> > > and
>> > > > it is Maven on top of Resolver that should interpret these artifacts
>> > > based
>> > > > on user posed instructions (declarations). Resolver is really just
>> > about
>> > > > "getting" and "putting" artifacts, not USING them.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > It foes cause it is not aboug resolver but enabling user to express
>> path
>> > > with maven abstraction, not resolution itself.
>> > >
>> > > Java is about paths, maven coordinates, we miss a link on user land to
>> > make
>> > > it smooth.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > T
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 2:56 PM Tamás Cservenák <
>> ta...@cservenak.net>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Romain,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > it's probably me, but I have no faintest idea what you are trying
>> to
>> > > > say...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > What do you mean by "standalone"?
>> > > > > What is the wrong packaging?
>> > > > > Why will I lose the ability to specify where it goes? Also, as I
>> said
>> > > > > before, if you list project/deps gav:jar AND gav:module, you
>> would be
>> > > > > putting _one same JAR_ on both paths (would you really want that?)
>> > > > > Also, here we are speaking about _dependencies_ but you suddenly
>> > switch
>> > > > to
>> > > > > building a project?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But one thing for sure: we need _less_ "guess logic" and not
>> _more of
>> > > > it_.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I think we are not talking about the same thing(s) here, but
>> again,
>> > > it's
>> > > > > just maybe me.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > T
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 1:32 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> > > > rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Le dim. 29 oct. 2023 à 12:44, Tamás Cservenák <
>> ta...@cservenak.net>
>> > a
>> > > > >> écrit :
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > Can you provide a real example? As I don't quite understand, so
>> > you
>> > > > >> would
>> > > > >> > have a dependency (a fat spring boot jar), that is a "module
>> dep
>> > is
>> > > a
>> > > > >> > module in compile/some tests but not at runtime (spring boot
>> > > fatjar)".
>> > > > >> So
>> > > > >> > all this within one maven module (compile/test/runtime?).
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> You have an app (src/main/java), all the chain down the line uses
>> > > > modules
>> > > > >> cause compiler is standalone, surefire (junit-launcher) is
>> > standalone,
>> > > > >> javadoc etc...and the packaging phase (jar/war/fatjar/...) is not
>> > > > >> standalone.
>> > > > >> Then using module will make your build pass but your IT (if you
>> have
>> > > > else
>> > > > >> your runtime) will not use that kind of construction/runtime.
>> > > > >> the issue is as soon as you mark them modules then it must be
>> module
>> > > for
>> > > > >> all plugins and therefore you will get a wrong packaging (think
>> bnd
>> > > for
>> > > > >> ex)
>> > > > >> or said otherwise you loose the consumption ability the JVM has
>> > > > providing
>> > > > >> both classpath and module path for the same jar (jlink requires
>> deps
>> > > to
>> > > > be
>> > > > >> modules but these modules can be used in the classpath most of
>> the
>> > > time,
>> > > > >> in
>> > > > >> particular in tests where it helps in several scenarii like
>> > mocking).
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> These are all valid features we don't want to break in maven.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> The consuming side is problematic since you restart from scratch,
>> > all
>> > > > the
>> > > > >> jpms meta are to throw away cause we don't want to break the
>> model
>> > on
>> > > > one
>> > > > >> side and on another side it depends the consumer the way you
>> consume
>> > > it
>> > > > >> and
>> > > > >> dispatch the dependency on the classpath or module path.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Your solution is valid technically but does not solve the
>> original
>> > > > issue,
>> > > > >> it just moves it elsewhere IMHO.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> This already works well today at the cost of being explicit in
>> the
>> > > > plugins
>> > > > >> configs and with your proposal it will still work at the same
>> cost
>> > > > (maybe
>> > > > >> reversed).
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> So ultimately I don't think it is a dep meta we need but more a
>> > > wrapper
>> > > > on
>> > > > >> top of the resolver (the guess logic we have in plexus for ex)
>> which
>> > > > >> should
>> > > > >> be easier to configure, maybe globally for the project and
>> > ultimately
>> > > > per
>> > > > >> plugin (think "configuration" in gradle world of maven depencies
>> set
>> > > in
>> > > > >> our
>> > > > >> world)....or we just don't do anything and ease the dependency
>> > > > referencing
>> > > > >> (gav->path) to ease this explicit configuration - a bit like
>> > including
>> > > > >> dependencies:properties in core by default.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > T
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:37 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> > > > >> rmannibu...@gmail.com
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > Le dim. 29 oct. 2023 à 12:12, Tamás Cservenák <
>> > > ta...@cservenak.net>
>> > > > a
>> > > > >> > > écrit :
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > Given that jar (spring boot fatjar) is once this once that,
>> > you
>> > > > >> refer
>> > > > >> > to
>> > > > >> > > it
>> > > > >> > > > in deps as needed:
>> > > > >> > > > in one module is fat:jar in other is fat:module, as needed.
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > You are the one explicitly telling what you want.
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > In my example (and spring boot is not the only one, wars are
>> > > another
>> > > > >> > common
>> > > > >> > > one, or any java command more generally) the two modules are
>> a
>> > > > single
>> > > > >> > > one....and no doing two module would be worse than what we
>> have
>> > > > today.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > Thanks
>> > > > >> > > > T
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 8:42 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> > > > >> > > rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > Interesting but common case: a module dep is a module in
>> > > > >> compile/some
>> > > > >> > > > tests
>> > > > >> > > > > but not at runtime (spring boot fatjar).
>> > > > >> > > > > Back to explicit config in plugins and drop new module
>> type?
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > Le dim. 29 oct. 2023 à 07:46, Christoph Läubrich <
>> > > > >> > m...@laeubi-soft.de>
>> > > > >> > > a
>> > > > >> > > > > écrit :
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > >  > where properties are totally extensible,
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > And if now I could supply additional properties from
>> the
>> > > > >> xml-model
>> > > > >> > > ...
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > Am 29.10.23 um 00:40 schrieb Tamás Cservenák:
>> > > > >> > > > > > > And finally this is hardly gonna happen in Maven 3
>> > > lifespan,
>> > > > >> as
>> > > > >> > > sadly
>> > > > >> > > > > > > ArtifactHandler of it is quite limited: has only one
>> > flag:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/maven-3.9.x/maven-artifact/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/artifact/handler/ArtifactHandler.java#L55
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > Sadly, Maven4 Type continued on this path, but
>> luckily
>> > we
>> > > > are
>> > > > >> in
>> > > > >> > > > alpha,
>> > > > >> > > > > > and
>> > > > >> > > > > > > will propose a PR to type that currently looks like
>> > this:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/master/api/maven-api-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/api/Type.java#L80
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > And would rework it to be more (if not same as) the
>> > > resolver
>> > > > >> > > > > > ArtifactType:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/maven-resolver/blob/master/maven-resolver-api/src/main/java/org/eclipse/aether/artifact/ArtifactType.java#L63
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > where properties are totally extensible, for example
>> > "add
>> > > to
>> > > > >> > > > classpath"
>> > > > >> > > > > > is
>> > > > >> > > > > > > really just one flag (added by ArifactType):
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/maven-resolver/blob/master/maven-resolver-api/src/main/java/org/eclipse/aether/artifact/ArtifactProperties.java#L58
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > So, ArtifactProperties could be extended with
>> > > > >> > > > "constitutesModulePath",
>> > > > >> > > > > > > "agent" and so on... To make this really extensible.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > In maven3 the ArtifactHandler this makes it
>> impossible.
>> > > > There
>> > > > >> is
>> > > > >> > > > still
>> > > > >> > > > > > hope
>> > > > >> > > > > > > in Maven 4
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > >> > > > > > > T
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:32 AM Tamás Cservenák <
>> > > > >> > > > ta...@cservenak.net>
>> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> This would also mean, that if you have a dependency
>> > that
>> > > is
>> > > > >> > > already
>> > > > >> > > > > JPMS
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> modularized (is java9+ and has module-info), then:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> a) if you declare it as type="jar" it means you
>> want to
>> > > put
>> > > > >> it
>> > > > >> > on
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> classpath (use it as "plain old jar")
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> b) if you declare it as type="module" it means you
>> want
>> > > it
>> > > > on
>> > > > >> > > > > modulepath
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> etc
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:30 AM Tamás Cservenák <
>> > > > >> > > > ta...@cservenak.net
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> Of course, the logic HOW and WHAT to make with
>> these
>> > > would
>> > > > >> be
>> > > > >> > > > needed
>> > > > >> > > > > to
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> be added to javadoc, compiler and all the plugins
>> that
>> > > > need
>> > > > >> to
>> > > > >> > > > > > distinguish.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> But this would stop any need for any heuristic,
>> > > guesswork,
>> > > > >> > > > > smart-ness,
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> etc...
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> OTOH, if we introduce new packaging lifecycle
>> "module"
>> > > > (so a
>> > > > >> > > > project
>> > > > >> > > > > > that
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> builds module would do project/packaging=module),
>> it
>> > > could
>> > > > >> > nicely
>> > > > >> > > > > > enforce
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> things like:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> - prevent non allowed packages
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> - enforce presence of module-info.class (maybe some
>> > > light
>> > > > >> > > > > verification)
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> - ensure project is Java9+ etc
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> Most of this was somewhat done in Takari Lifecycle
>> > (also
>> > > > >> with
>> > > > >> > > > custom
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> packaging like "takari-jar" was).
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> T
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:26 AM Tamás Cservenák <
>> > > > >> > > > > ta...@cservenak.net>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>> wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> So, basically this is what am proposing:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > >
>> > https://gist.github.com/cstamas/76f262538b5a11f6ee23d6d8c86f10ec
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> Basically, Maven core (and hence plugins) could
>> > > > distinguish
>> > > > >> > > among
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> different "types" of dependencies (while would all
>> > > still
>> > > > be
>> > > > >> > > plain
>> > > > >> > > > > > JARs).
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> So "jar" would be put on classpath, "module" on
>> > module
>> > > > >> path,
>> > > > >> > > > "agent"
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> would got special treatment and so on.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> Point is to _differentiate_.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> T
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:21 AM Tamás Cservenák <
>> > > > >> > > > > ta...@cservenak.net
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> Unsure from where you get that, but is wrong
>> > > conclusion.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> You can have dep1:jar, dep2:module, dep3:agent
>> and
>> > > all 3
>> > > > >> MAY
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> (ArtifactHandler dependent, assuming "jar",
>> "module"
>> > > and
>> > > > >> > > "agent"
>> > > > >> > > > > > artifact
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> handlers all return extension=jar) refer to the
>> same
>> > > JAR
>> > > > >> file
>> > > > >> > > in
>> > > > >> > > > > > your local
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> repository.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> Type merely adds "semantics" WHAT is it about,
>> HOW
>> > to
>> > > > make
>> > > > >> > use
>> > > > >> > > of
>> > > > >> > > > > it.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> Please see
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://maven.apache.org/repositories/artifacts.html#but-where-do-i-set-artifact-extension
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> Thanks
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> T
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:17 AM Martin
>> > Desruisseaux <
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>> martin.desruisse...@geomatys.com> wrote:
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>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>> Le 2023-10-28 à 22 h 54, Tamás Cservenák a
>> écrit :
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>>> I still see these just as new dependency types:
>> > > > >> "module",
>> > > > >> > > > > "agent",
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>>> "doclet", and so on.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>> Does "dependency type" means the <type> element
>> > > inside
>> > > > >> > > > > <dependency>?
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>> If
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>> yes, then specifying a different type causes
>> Maven
>> > to
>> > > > >> > > download a
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>> different JAR, without changing the kind of path
>> > > (class
>> > > > >> path
>> > > > >> > > > > versus
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>> module path) where the JAR is put. The proposed
>> > > <usage>
>> > > > >> > > element
>> > > > >> > > > > (or
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>> whatever equivalent alternatives) has the
>> opposite
>> > > > >> semantic:
>> > > > >> > > it
>> > > > >> > > > > does
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>> not
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>> change the JAR to download, but put it on a
>> > different
>> > > > >> kind
>> > > > >> > of
>> > > > >> > > > > path.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>>>>       Martin
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