Given that it will still be quite a while until Maven 4 comes out and we
are probably going to stick to the same Java version for Maven 4 until
we move to 5, I would strongly suggest to go with Java 21.
There are a lot of further performance and other improvements from 17 to
21. Also from our experience with the upgrade in the Trino project the
leap from 17 to 21 is relatively small.
Manfred
On 2024-02-22 14:40, Brian Fox wrote:
That feels right to me based on the data and all the discussion so far.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:49 PM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> wrote:
I think this starts to make reasonable picture:
If you are on Java 8, use Maven 3
If you are on Java 9+ use Maven 4 (once out).
For start, Maven3 has no idea (notion) about "classpaths" vs "modulepaths"
(is not quite true stated like this, it has SOME heuristics, that is mostly
shoot-and-miss).
So, I think it makes sense to have Maven 4 as Java 17, as folks in "big
tech" with strict processes, policies and what not will not migrate anyway
to Maven4. They have Maven3.
T
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 9:23 PM Benjamin Marwell <bmarw...@apache.org>
wrote:
Brian, any Chance you could make a stacked 100% graph for every *week*
of the past two years?
We could then see where we are heading…
(or the raw numbers per week, so we could work with that).
That's probably a lot to ask, but I think it will show us how "fast"
the progression was (and will be).
@Tamas please consider the support times are different by vendor.
I have seen Java 8 support well beyond 2030 *shudder*.
Seeing all those numbers, I now feel a lot more confident that Maven 4
should be 17 (runtime), 21 (build)
and Java 8 users should stay with 3.x.x.
Elliotte gave a good reason for this: There are two camps now (read:
ALREADY).
There is no reason to not go with either of them.
Am Do., 22. Feb. 2024 um 19:56 Uhr schrieb Brian Fox <bri...@infinity.nu
:
We dumped 30 days because that gives a good snapshot of what's
happening
right now. If we dumped for example the whole year, then it really
blurs
the lines all over the place and things newer will be less prominent
just
because they didn't have as much time. 30 days is how we typically
bucket
things when we want a form of relative popularity.
As far as toy projects skewing, Tamas is right, the scale of central
data
is so large that it's insignificant. Also remember we only counted each
IP
once per entry so even projects downloading over and over won't skew
the
results.
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