I’d like to migrate to sonatype central but it introduced new set of
limitations that made our project (Trino) unreleasable (2 gb upload limit
where our project is 5.9 Gb) :)

I have no idea what was wrong with the previous approach (create staging
repo, upload multiple files, close repo, promote)

On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 16:31 Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 2025/07/06 12:36:02 Jon Harper wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > I think it would be very beneficial for the community that the maven
> > dev team communicates on the current events of the sunset of OSSRH.
> > Otherwise, I think there is a big risk of uncertainty and division in
> > the community.
> >
> > Quoting Romain (
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/bf3762lvd8l64hwyny7rnp3m6r852b9h )
> > from a year ago
> > "most of us using central outside the asf will be impacted sometime
> > next year probably"
> >
> > And now this time has come (note: I shamefully procrastinated the
> > ossrh migration until I was forced to, but like many people I
> > guess..). Unfortunately, it coincides with the last stages of the
> > maven 4 release, so I understand that everyone is very busy at the
> > moment.
> >
> > Maven is a tool that communicates with the outside world, so I would
> > think it's legitimate for the maven devs to publicly express their
> > guidelines. Unfortunately it's not an easy task (as a matter of fact,
> > the best resource I currently know for this is the personal blog of
> > Karl Heinz Marbaise), but maybe an email discussion can lay enough
> > foundations by gathering many opinions so that a coherent message can
> > be sent to the community ?
> >
> > Aggravating factors in central-publishing-maven-plugin that lead to
> > uncertainty according to me:
> > - Similarity with the standard maven-deploy-plugin. Sonatype even has
> > a compatibility service but its use is discouraged ("We hope that over
> > time plugins will adopt the Portal API rather than rely on this
> > service" in
> https://central.sonatype.org/publish/publish-portal-ossrh-staging-api/
> > ).
> > - No public scm system available makes it hard to get context
> > information (
> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/sonatype/central/central-publishing-maven-plugin/0.8.0/central-publishing-maven-plugin-0.8.0.pom
> > lists https://github.com/sonatype/central-publishing-maven-plugin but
> > is 404). (Note: The code is still available in the source jar
> > alongside the plugin
> >
> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/sonatype/central/central-publishing-maven-plugin/0.8.0/central-publishing-maven-plugin-0.8.0-sources.jar
> > )
> > - central-publishing-maven-plugin uses <extension>true</extension> to
> > forcefully remove any invocation of the maven-deploy-plugin which I
> > found surprising (aggressive ?) behavior.
> > - impossible as of 0.8.0 to use central-publishing-maven-plugin behind
> > a corporate proxy which ( by virtue of the http client5 of apache
> > httpcomponents without the extra code required to allow proxies ...)
> > - looks like fighting instead of cooperating (even though the plugin
> > architecture of maven invites this kind of work, maybe it's better
> > when core functionality stays within the maven umbrella like the
> > maven-deploy-plugin?)
> >
> > What are your thoughts ? Are the recent improvements to the
> > maven-deploy-plugin strong enough the try and unite all publishing
> > plugins as one ?
>
> Worst BS approach I have ever seen for an OSS ecosystem w/o having the
> code for the deployment not using standard plugins. I don't understand why
> Sonatype reinvented the wheel and had to make like so complicated. This
> will scare off even more people.
>
> M
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