On 7 Aug 07, at 12:43 AM 7 Aug 07, William Ferguson wrote:

Thanks Jason.

I appreciate that everyone on the list has a day job too, but it *is*
very frustrating to report an issue, document it well, provide test
cases and a patch and have it sit around without any visible action
being taken on it. I was kind of hopeful that this issue would have been
resolved sooner due to its simplicity (its easy to see from a code
inspection that there is a bug IMHO), but I understand the velocity
required to validate changes.

Too much frustration trying to get bugs fixed will result in less input
from users, putting more burden on the developers. Changes in the
feature set are a bit different, but prioritizing issues that are bugs,
based on whether there is a patch containing a test case and/or a fix
would lower frustration and also encourage greater investment from the
user community. If I knew the the bug that was really annoying me was
going to get priority if I put in the extra time to provide a testcase
and a fix, I'd be more inclined to spend the time.

To make it effective, the method of prioritization would need to be made public and would need to be enthusiastically followed by the development
team.


Nothing that you say is lost on me. I am painfully aware of the situation.

It's slow going but the process for trying to make patches and tests is coming. Brian has help me to work on the documentation in general and the patching and testing is included. Raphael and Brian have been working on ArchetypeNG the first target of which is an IT, and Brett has been working on the JIRA workflow for dealing with issues that come in. I've also tried to make proposals more visible on the wiki and try and organize the work in progress so users can see what's going on.

It's hard to see a lot of the background work but I am trying to prepare to put a system in place that makes the development, fixing, and absorption of external work different for 2.1 then the process for anything done in the past. But without the infrastructure in place it will just crumble again if get going at any pace.

William

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On 6 Aug 07, at 12:18 AM 6 Aug 07, William Ferguson wrote:

Come on guys.
The patch is the addition of just 2 return statements.
There's really not much to verify here.

And 2 additional (simple) test cases have been provided.
Surely that in itself is a good thing to add to the code base.

Now that Joakim has unassigned himself from the issue, can someone
please pick it up and apply the patch?


I will try it, bootstrap maven and try the usual set of tests. This is
typically why it's not a speedy thing as to validate even small changes as we have to run through the whole process to make sure it works. I've
applied patches that seems minimal they end up inadvertently making
something else not work.

Don't get frustrated, the patch is simple yes but we all have day jobs
just like you.

William

-----Original Message-----
From: William Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 3 August 2007 11:39 AM
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Subject: Please apply the patch for WAGON-73

This issue is a real pain : http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/WAGON-73

There are test cases for it and there is a patch for it.
All of which were provided in May.

Could someone, please, please apply the patch.

Willliam

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Thanks,

Jason

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