What are the real requirements?
They are:
1) An easy way to get a set of stable plugins that work together
2) To easily see what versions are contained in this set
3) To easily change or augment what is in this set
The current mechanism + toolings works. I know what's going to happen
with plugin packs. Someone is going to want to change a version of a
plugin they are using and "How do I find out what versions of plugins
am I using", "How do I override what version of a plugin I'm using if
it's specified in a plugin pack?", "Does plugin management win if
it's in a plugin pack?". "I found a bug in the way plugin packs are
processed and I can't get a plugin version I need, is there a work
around?". "How do I configure plugins that have been defined in the
plugin pack". So people are going to have to end up redeclaring bits
to get configuration and execution information locked down and then
you end up with a terrible configuration management problem.
A fully, and clear, literal way to define this is what is most
practical. The questions below are also framed to bias the answers.
For A, plugin packs are not the only solution. In very practical
terms the total number of plugins is not that high. What people want
to know is the stable set. The core processing required for the
notion of a plugin pack will not be straight forward and it's not
necessary and adds almost no value and I'm certain it will lead to
greater complexity.
Users want 1), 2), and 3). The current mechanism plus minimal
tooling, or no tooling if people cut and paste (big deal) covers
those requirements. Plugin packs cover 1) and then it becomes another
nightmare to maintain. I am not in favor of plugin packs.
On 1 Sep 07, at 7:53 PM 1 Sep 07, Brett Porter wrote:
Like the other poll, I'd like to hear from as many people as
possible their opinion this topic (even if you just want to say '0'
so we know where you stand).
[ ] (A) Having a way to include a set of plugins in one small POM
fragment would be a useful feature to have (if you have a use case
other than the already stated "standard plugins", please specify)
[ ] (B) Pasting a snippet in from the web site is sufficient
[ ] (C) No opinion
[ ] (D) Undecided
[ ] (E) Other (please specify)
Thanks,
Brett
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