Also, this may have been written before the dependency plugin had the
current feature set.  I know when I first started using maven2 and the
dependency plugin, it only had copy, unpack, and a couple of other
goals.  It didn't have everything it has now.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:56 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: maven vs openmake mesiter

Heh, it looks to me like people who have had bad experiences with  
maven but not known the tools that can help.
The command "mvn dependency:tree" would have saved them a paragraph of  
rant at least!

Andy

On 31 Mar 2008, at 22:59, Jason van Zyl wrote:

> I have something written but it's not very nice. But we're obviously  
> a threat as they make comparisons to us. A victim of our own  
> success. I've also meant to follow up on when they started using the  
> term "Mojo" which definitely confuses people. For the sister Maven  
> project over at Codehaus called Mojo has been around quite a long  
> time. So I just didn't want to be disappointed and I'm hoping that  
> they didn't do it to confuse users. I am assuming not but I haven't  
> looked up the dates.
>
> I will try to remove the barbs from my write-up, as their marketing  
> I frankly find distasteful. But I'll try to be objective and publish  
> it.
>
> On 31-Mar-08, at 2:18 PM, Jason Chaffee wrote:
>> I came across OpenMake's meister over the weekend and wondered if  
>> anyone
>> on this list has any experience with or any comparison with Maven?  I
>> was just curious what the maven community's impression/response  
>> would be
>> because they claim to have maven-like features, but they also claim  
>> to
>> go "above and beyond" maven in flexibility and features.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.openmakesoftware.com/Maven-VS-Meister/
>>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder,  Apache Maven
> jason at sonatype dot com
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
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>
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