If I will put dependencies on separated files, why use maven dependencies?

VELO

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Nigel Magnay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's not a scope issue, it's a compiler options issue.
>
> You could just use the same mechanism that israfil flex mojo uses,
> which is to utilise the .flexLib / .actionScriptProperties files in
> order to determine whether to bind dependencies into the output or
> not.
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Marvin Froeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oh no, I can't do that.
> >
> > Doing this the plugin user will need to know how to resolve libraries.
>  That
> > breaks all maven need.
> >
> >
> > VELO
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> It's an argument to the current resolution mechanism that lets you make
> a
> >> decision on whether to include every artifact. Maven has some standard
> >> filters for passing in lists in certain forms. You could look at the
> code of
> >> the assembly plugin for how those are used.
> >>
> >> How you configure it is up to you, but something like this would be
> >> expected:
> >>
> >> <runtimeLinkedLibraries>
> >>  <includes>
> >>    <include>someGroup:*</include>
> >>  </includes>
> >> </runtimeLinkedLibraries>
> >> <mergedLinkedLibraries>
> >>  <excludes>
> >>    <exclude>someGroup:*</include>
> >>  </excludes>
> >> </mergedLinkedLibraries>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Brett
> >>
> >>
> >> On 05/06/2008, at 11:57 AM, Marvin Froeder wrote:
> >>
> >>  Can you give me some light about how this plugins filters works?
> >>> A where to start...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> VELO
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  It's debatable whether the artifact resolution mechanism should
> support
> >>>> customisable scopes - I can see some justification from this, but
> these
> >>>> would all be flex specific, not blended in with the current set.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would suggest that the best approach for you to take is to configure
> >>>> filters on the plugins to apply these types of linking to certain
> >>>> artifacts
> >>>> from the Maven runtime scope set.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Brett
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 05/06/2008, at 9:41 AM, Marvin Froeder wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Flex has 2 types of binaries SWC (jar like) and SWF runnable file, but
> is
> >>>>
> >>>>> not a library.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just keep in mind flex is very different from java.  SWF files must
> be
> >>>>> all
> >>>>> required libraries bounded into it own binary in order to run or load
> at
> >>>>> runtime.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Flex compiler has 5 ways to link libraries to application
> >>>>> * merged
> >>>>> * internal
> >>>>> * external
> >>>>> * runtime
> >>>>> * caching
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Merged will copy all required classes into the SWF.
> >>>>> Internal will copy all available classes into SWF
> >>>>> External will not copy (and in some situations application will not
> >>>>> work,
> >>>>> but this is flex way to do things)
> >>>>> Runtime will load the library over internet on runtime (means 2 SWC
> will
> >>>>> be
> >>>>> on server)
> >>>>> Caching will load some special optimized libraries like runtime.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just to be clear.
> >>>>> If I compile myLibrary with all external libraries will generate a
> very
> >>>>> small SWC.  If all are merged will generate a little bigger SWC.  If
> all
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> internal will generate a huge SWC file. Caching, runtime and external
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> all generate the smaller file, but caching and runtime are only for
> SWF,
> >>>>> so
> >>>>> no transitive problem.  SWF are dead ends. Runnable, but no
> extendable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Right now, I define this on scopes. ie:
> >>>>>     <dependency>
> >>>>>         <groupId>com.adobe.flex.sdk</groupId>
> >>>>>         <artifactId>playerglobal</artifactId>
> >>>>>         <version>10.0.0-beta-051508</version>
> >>>>>         <type>swc</type>
> >>>>>         <scope>external</scope>
> >>>>>     </dependency>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, when myLibrary has merged or internal libraries, those
> libraries
> >>>>> doesn't need to be transitive.  myLibrary will be compiled with all
> >>>>> required
> >>>>> data.  So transitivity make no sense.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When I have a library with external libraries and this library is
> used
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> compile a application as merged, I need to merge all libraries,
> because
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> library have externalized others libraries content.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Its a little confuse, specilly for who comes from Java.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> VELO
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think you need to explain more about what the problem is. I'm not
> sure
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> you will need a new scope.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4-Jun-08, at 2:22 PM, Marvin Froeder wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I try this on users list, but now answer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have develop my on plugin for compiling flex with maven (
> >>>>>>> http://blog.flex-mojos.info/).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Flex is different from Java in several ways.  One of this ways are
> >>>>>>> related
> >>>>>>> to libraries scopes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Was need to add other scopes in order to compile flex.  Now I need
> to
> >>>>>>> customize maven dependency resolution mechanism to use some of this
> >>>>>>> dependencies as non transitive.  The big question is, how?  Pexus
> will
> >>>>>>> accept that?  I will need to right my own resolution mechanism?
>  Can
> >>>>>>> anyone
> >>>>>>> give me a light on this matter?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> VELO
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
> >>>>>> jason at sonatype dot com
> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We all have problems. How we deal with them is a measure of our
> worth.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -- Unknown
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  --
> >>>> Brett Porter
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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